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cross-posted from: https://szmer.info/post/6806162
So, which butthole did you pull your code, copy, or image from today? 🙂
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Seek counseling.
what a lovely specimen of tissue paper skin!
hold back your remarks folks, this one looks like it might piss itself if you mention AI.
because ai is shit and shit comes out through buttholes
AI is amazing. It can detect cancer. Find new chemical composites for undiscovered medicine. It can solve unsolved problems in astronomy. It optimizes logistics and productions in ways that discriminative algorithms would never be able to.
It can detect cancer.
no it can’t. it can create an early diagnosis that a medical professional then has to verify through tests and diagnosis.
Find new chemical composites for undiscovered medicine.
no it can’t. it can identify potential compounds but is unable to verify they don’t make a poison. it takes thousands of chemists millions of man hours to validate and verify findings.
It can solve unsolved problems in astronomy.
no it can’t. it can identify patterns in the data it has been fed. it takes an astronomer to not only feed the data, but to understand the data returned. it also entirely depends on the accuracy of the original dataset, also provided by an astronomer.
It optimizes logistics and productions in ways that discriminative algorithms would never be able to.
it can do that, but ignores the complexity of human interactions. humans are complex animals that cause exceptions to rules and that never works for any logistics. AI creates a system of human suffering because, to AI, human state of being is a problem to be solved for not made an exception to.
AI is amazing.
it’s really not. human ingenuity is amazing.
It can detect cancer. The need for double checking or verification is just that: double checking and verification. But the AI detected it. You know what “detect” means right?
It can also find chemical compounds for medicine. It needs to be tested like every other medicine found by humans. But it was found by the AI nontheless.
AI can make discoveries in space that no human or discriminative algorithm would ever be able to do. Do you know how big space is? And how much data is available for inference? Exponential discriminative algorithms (or even worse humans) would take billions of years finding things that generative algorithms can find in hours. It’s an incredibly valuable tool. More valuable than the telescopes themselves.
Your comment shows that you have no technical understanding of the technology. You project LLMs on AI in general and don’t realize that AI has been around being productive for the past 50 years. AI is the next step of evolution. Like fire, agriculture or electricity. It will make life so much faster, more efficient and more productive. It has already enabled us to accomplish and discover amazing things and it will only accelerate.
sensationalist bullshit to draw more funding to a new program.
I’m not saying that AI can’t be used to detect cancer, but it can’t be used to diagnose any medical condition.
are we really so dumb that we’d take away the power of doctors only to replace them with technology that is owned and operated by a shell corp that’s loyal to health insurance companies?
Your comment shows that you have no technical understanding of the technology. You project LLMs on AI in general and don’t realize that AI has been around being productive for the past 50 years.
that’s one big pile of shit. don’t know what else I expected from someone who blindly supports a tool with religious fervor.
AI is the next step of evolution. Like fire, agriculture or electricity. It will make life so much faster, more efficient and more productive. It has already enabled us to accomplish and discover amazing things and it will only accelerate.
holy fucking shit! do you hear yourself?! you’re either a nutjob or you can’t even comprehend what it is you’re actually saying and are just vomiting words out into the world.
if AI has been productive for 50 years, like you said, what are some of the “world changing” impacts that you’re talking about?
you know what, forget about it. My AI model just determined you’re full of shit.
I’m not saying that AI can’t be used to detect cancer, but it can’t be used to diagnose any medical condition.
The doctor needs to do the diagnosis. The AI detects it. AI is definitely used like that. And not just somewhere. AI is being used widely in the health sector. So it’s not just some bullshit. It’s actually useful. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
are we really so dumb that we’d take away the power of doctors
You seem to be a bit confused. Nobody said anything about replacing doctors. And insurancr companies weren’t even mentioned.
that’s one big pile of shit. don’t know what else I expected from someone who blindly supports a tool with religious fervor.
How do you even “support” that? What are you saying? Neural networks have neen around for longer than you’ve been alive for. It’s being used fucking everywhere. And not just yesterday but for many years now.
Remove AI (neural networks) from existence and you wouldn’t have the following:
- They are being used in avation for anti-aircraft collision systems since the early 2010s.
- It is used extensively in Email spam filtering.
- Tagging of your photos.
- Search Engine auto-complete.
- Banking transaction monitoring against tax evasion and money laundering.
- Elevator scheduling in large buildings.
- Spell checker in text editors.
- Self-checkout in grocery stores.
- Traffic lights optimization in cities.
- Spotify recommendations
- Battery optimization in phones
- Noise cancellation in voice calls
- Retail store shelf layout
- Weather forecasting
You’re just completely delusional and mad because you read something about LLMs on the internet. You’re the one who’s religiously attacking something so ambiguous and ubiquitous while not having any technical understanding about the underlying technology.
Explain to me how transformers, RNNs, or CNNs work and we can keep this discussion up.
Alright, fair point that it is detection and not diagnosis even if it means being pedantic. But everything else that an AI capable of is also not to be dismissed.
Every single rebuttal that you did does not paint humans in a good light. Why did the doctor perform further said testing to verify the cancer? Because an AI predict it. And we prefer more false positives than false negatives, so we test the positive.
Testing for medicine as poison will be done no matter if it was found by humans or not. Searching for potential medicine faster is a welcome in my book. Rather than finding being the bottleneck, I’d rather test be the bottleneck. It means we will have a potential answer than none at all.
As for the astronomer case, it is true for every field. Cancer detection? Ideally, a doctor/medical technician feed the AI the data, and the doctor must also check the output of said AI. A simple X-ray scan with a marker marked as cancer will have a lot of parameters that the doctor could understand that a layman may not. Maybe it is the size, maybe it is the opacity, maybe it is the location, and many other things.
Why did the doctor perform further said testing to verify the cancer? Because an AI predict it. And we prefer more false positives than false negatives, so we test the positive.
yeah, that’s not how medicine works. medicine works through diagnosis, testing, then treatment, especially with cancer. no doctor is going to trust software to diagnose a patient and then prescribe treatment blindly because it’s the doctors license on the line if the patient was treated without proper diagnosis.
Testing for medicine as poison will be done no matter if it was found by humans or not. Searching for potential medicine faster is a welcome in my book. Rather than finding being the bottleneck, I’d rather test be the bottleneck. It means we will have a potential answer than none at all.
this is the most brain numbing take. AI can generate 15 billion compounds with medical implications. out of those only 200 are viable. out of those 15 aren’t toxic to humans. problem is, it’s going to take 50 years to find those 200 and another 25 years for the 15. in the meantime all medical research has been dedicated to finding those 15 medications for 75 years and have completely ignored research into specific medicines to treat problems now. the biggest joke about those 15 medicines? they’re all “boner” pills because the model was trained on Pfizer data.
As for the astronomer case, it is true for every field. Cancer detection? Ideally, a doctor/medical technician feed the AI the data, and the doctor must also check the output of said AI. A simple X-ray scan with a marker marked as cancer will have a lot of parameters that the doctor could understand that a layman may not. Maybe it is the size, maybe it is the opacity, maybe it is the location, and many other things.
what’s your point? of course you need specialists to train the models, that’s besides the point I made. I’ll be blunt with you, AI is only as good as the data that built the model. we as humans often forget that we live in an interconnected world that has broad impacts on every topic. to build a model that only specializes in one topic will get you results that are biased towards the topic and whatever data you trained the model under. it will never see the world as a nuanced place and only see’s the world in what you tell it to see.
the examples you gave were poor. it’s not your fault because you only drank the koolaide that was put in front of you.
AI excels at pattern recognition, if you keep the focus small enough it can be a useful tool. what you’re doing however is “praising the hammer for building a house” when it was the team of carpenters, roofers, electricians, plumbers, drywallers, painters, etc that actually built the house.
Every single rebuttal that you did does not paint humans in a good light.
I have no idea why you would say that. everything I said painted humans in a human light. just like the poor examples you gave, you are human and are fallible. To believe you can live in a world where software is infallible is just foolish and naive.
To believe you can live in a world where software is infallible is just foolish and naive.
Aye, sure, but you don’t check the result of calculations manually, do you, because you trust the calculator.
Similarly, you probably don’t stress test every joint on every car you get into, do you?
My point being that there is a point at which you do trust the tool sufficiently.
Is it at the state of cancer diagnosis? Definitely not. How about cooking? Yes, pretty much it is. I trust it more or less when cooking and making drinks.
I’ve also gotten a ton of actually helpfil medical information that real life doctors fucked up.
So yeah one should be critical but just don’t be a complete luddite.
Aye, sure, but you don’t check the result of calculations manually, do you, because you trust the calculator.
what a disingenuous shitbag example.
no, I don’t check the math that a calculator does. know why?
Problem with AI is that it can’t even do math properly!
Similarly, you probably don’t stress test every joint on every car you get into, do you?
it is similar, know why? it’s fucking engineering, which is an entire branch of math!
My point being that there is a point at which you do trust the tool sufficiently.
you failed to make your point because you use AI too much and your brain has gone soft. make some better arguments next time and I’ll take you seriously.
I’ve also gotten a ton of actually helpfil medical information that real life doctors fucked up.
btw, this has “Facebook essential oils” group written all over it. I hope to god you seek the medical help you need from a medical professional that has decades of training and not some LLM garbage that’s been forcefed “grey’s anatomy” and MLP fanfic.
So yeah one should be critical but just don’t be a complete luddite.
Don’t know who that was directed to, couldn’t be me. I run my own models among other things. Just because someone challenges your opinion doesn’t mean they are less than you.
All AI bros are the same. it’s fuckin gross. go out and touch grass once in awhile, and maybe go see a doctor for whatever’s wrong with you.
Do you know what else is math? Probability and statistics. AI cannot do math because it is not a suitable task for it. Seriously, who TF thinks that a rigorous well defined process should be fed into a statistical blackbox.
it is similar, know why? it’s fucking engineering, which is an entire branch of math!
Do you know what else the engineer uses to optimize a product design? The answer may surprise you…
no, I don’t check the math that a calculator does. know why?
But unless your using an actual abacus, the person who built your calculator, or more likely programmed the OS you’re running a calculator software on, you’re still using a product made by a fallible person and which could have made a mistake.
Problem with AI is that it can’t even do math properly!
Then neither can basic calculators. Or your trying to say that sometimes the input isn’t clear enough for the AI to get the corrected calculation it could do correctly. Ie the interface is still unreliable.
But at some point, it will be reliable enough. And it’s already reliable enough for cooking. It can still make mistakes, but if you understand the basics, you’ll realise if there’s some massive hallucination.
it is similar, know why? it’s fucking engineering, which is an entire branch of math!
Ah, so the minimum wage people actually putting the cars together (there’s one factory I know not far from me which every single one of my immigrant friends has been at for a week or two) are infallible, because engineering is — at its core — based on math?
You know you seem just as ridiculous as the guy you were arguing, who’s claiming LLM’s will cure cancer.
“Engineering is math and math is math thus all engineered products and all engineered software is perfect and infallible … except for anything AI, WHICH IS TO BE BURNED AS HERECY.”
your brain has gone soft. make some better arguments next time and I’ll take you seriously.
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btw, this has “Facebook essential oils” group written all over it. I hope to god you seek the medical help you need from a medical professional that has decades of training and not some LLM garbage that’s been forcefed “grey’s anatomy” and MLP fanfic.
You misunderstand. It’s not because the AI is better at medicine. It’s because it’s a tool which has got access to medical information, and the doctors I used were public doctors who dismissed me. Something again which you somehow think of as impossible, as your “brain has gone soft” and suffers from the just world fallacy.
With the aid of LLM’s, I could actually input very medical questions, which the doctors would’ve probably known how to answer, had they actually listened to what I was saying. You’re completely ignoring arrogance, bureaucracy, racism, sexism and agism.
If you want, I’ll eat wheat right now and show you how I’ll start having a high blood pressure, high HR, extremely anxiety and shitting orange floaty poop. Despite that, I have a doctors statement saying the test for celiacs is negative. We took the antigen test after I asked the doctor whether the antigen test actually requires being exposed in case of a false negative, as I was already avoiding gluten since I know to be allergic to it. She said “no it doesn’t”. After the test came back negative, she messaged me, indirectly admitting she had made a mistake. Now I’ve a complaint going on about her but these take literally years to process.
Don’t know who that was directed to, couldn’t be me. I run my own models among other things
Ofc it was directed at you. You’re a mindless softbrain who just has to be in the “anti-AI” bandwagon, because you’re not capable of forming your own opinions, so you always just trail others and shout out what you think is the most successful thing you’ve heard. And you still use them, despite taking a stance like that in public. It’s pathetic, really. I hope you grow out of it.
but the article talks about gen ai specifically so im also talking about gen ai specifically
Butt jokes aside, I think all these are trying to compete to be the symbol that eventually represents the Singularity, or some shit.
do all circles look like buttholes to you?
Yes, and all tall and long things are penises.
I personally thought they were generally surrounding the singularity. But that might be because I’m a little bit interested in AI, while this journalist is more interested in sphincters.
Cuz AI is usually full of shit?
Like CEO, like company.
Great school, really good curriculum, too.
They were streets ahead in their logo design…
E Pluribus Anus
They’re this close to the chaos symbol.
I so many of my colleagues loved this show. I couldn’t watch it because it was just too real and triggered me hard.
I think you need to see a doctor.
Just as an aside, but every time you see a sun to represent the far East, it’s a raising sun, not a setting one.
*rising
Fixed.
There is a distinct lack of off center buttholes.
What a silly take. You could just as well say they look like flowers.
Buttholes are funnier, though.
I want to believe that was malicious compliance by the designer
Because they are mostly circles, and the author is anally fixated.
exactly, Claude’s is the only one that remotely resembles one, the others are just radially symmetric. Does the author also think flowers are buttholes? Stars, planets, camera apertures, vortices are all buttholes.
You’re a butthole
akhctually, I’m an asshole
To represent their creators.
Because the only thing coming out of them is shit?
