Wasn’t Trump literally trying to bring it back last time?
https://whyy.org/articles/trump-wants-to-make-asbestos-great-again/
The use of asbestos in the US was only banned in 2024.
Trumpers would start eating asbestos for breakfast just to pwn the libz
I wish they would
Whats ruzzia’s position on asbestos?
In 2018, the U.S. idiot-in-chief tried to bring it back again.
Yes! How do people not remember this?
Because a thousand other crazy things happened.
Banning asbestos is like discarding our heritage! 🦸 It’s American ingenuity, jobs, safety in its most patriotic form. Asbestos has protected us for generations—why abandon this true-blue hero for trendy orthodoxy? Let’s celebrate our history and defend what truly makes America great. #AsbestosPatriotism 🗽✨
My pa knows a guy who lost his job installing asbestos and if we stop using it you know CHINA is gonna use and make big fools of us, it’s pathetic. Plus the news SAYS it’s a witch hunt boiled up by BIG LUNG to steal money from hard working asbestos loving Americans 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
Hate to break it to you: https://www.archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/
They’re getting rid of silicosis protections now too.
Asbestos was used because of it’s flame retardation and it’s easy to make. Provided it’s properly encapsulated and does not become damaged risk can be mitigated. Preventing damage is the hard part, no one plans for a tree to fall on their house. Maybe if everyone just wears a air mask all the time we wouldn’t have to worry about it.
Asbestos is kind of a wonder material.
Easy to manufacture in complex shapes, inert (acid resistant, so great for chemical pipes), flame retardant, great insulator, and fairly cheap.
Shame that it causes really bad cancer…
Yea, but doesnt everything get damaged? And even if its while breaking it down when disposing/recycling/dumping it?
The mask really gets in the way of eating ass, though.
Provided the ass isn’t made of asbestos you should be fine to remove your mask.
Assbestos
A suppository is used to absorb nutrients or medicine into the body. Which brings me to my question: Can you eat ass with your butt?
Unfortunately that only produces the Infinity Turd™️ which is still under patent.
Marketing really missed an opportunity for “InfiniTurd” on that one.
Dude it was on the tip of my ass too, I originally had “Infinite Turd” but I thought give the people what they want, MCU
Not without prosthetics.
Looks like you’re not familiar with the inside of my mask
Russia has a town named after asbestos and lobbies for asbestos.
O.O
There already is lol.
We DoN’t NeEd VaCcInEs We’Ve GoT aSbEsToS!
My country banned smoking in all public indoor spaces almost 20 years ago. As a smoker at the time I thought it was ridiculous, felt that my rights were being violated and thought it would never last. The quality of life improvement it made is massive. Today I vape rather than smoke but wouldn’t dream of doing either indoors or being where someone else is. It was 100% the right move. Not quite the same thing but you sometimes can’t really understand the benefits of an alternative to the status quo, even if you understand it logically.
Smokers can never smell themselves so they don’t think it’s a big deal.
I don’t generally mind the smoking bans, but I wish there existed some indoor spaces where it could be done. They are very limited and mostly exclusive.
Contracting silicosis to own the libs. Then use some sort of donkey enema as a cure.
Is that giving a donkey an enema or preforming an enema with a donkey or is it utilizing a donkey to perform an enema…
I think it means using an enema made for donkeys for yourself.
I was surprised to find out that people also were against seatbelts. Weird
Oh god yes. They all literally invented a fake illness called “seat belt burn.” I kid you not. And this was the 80s before commercial Internet, so it spread organically.
My mother in law would complain about wearing one while I was driving her around, so I’d just refuse to move the car until she either got out or put the seatbelt on. She wears it without complaining now. I give no fucks if people like wearing it or not, when they’re in my car, I’m responsible for their safety and I won’t have their blood on my hands because they think it’ll never happen to them.
Oh yeah. “You’re safer being ejected from the car in a crash. My cousin’s ex husband’s sister’s daughter survived a crash that way!”
Those people have never seen someone who has been hit by an air bag. It’s not a gentle pillow it’s a punch to the face and if you aren’t strapped in you’re probably gonna bounce around a bit off the interior.
Yeah, one of my grandpas always chafed against wearing one, especially the part that comes across the chest. He was always “forgetting” to put it on, and holding it down so it wouldn’t like press against him.
Meanwhile I don’t even think about the seatbelt. Actually it feels wrong if I forget to put it on for some reason.
“ding… ding… ding…”
they do make it significantly harder to grab items from the back seats when at red lights, especially if they are the bs locking type.
They do. But for that just pull over and do what you’ve got to do. Stop trying to multitask while you’re in command and control of a device that can wipe out an entire family in a split second of distraction.
I’m in a comment war with a nicotine denialist on here now!
In the 90s, there were still tons of people angry about seat belt laws. It’s every American’s God Given Right to fly out of the windshield and probably kill someone else.
I am evil for this and I admit it.
Seat belts laws should not be enforced on adults. A windshield dive is a good cure for stupid, I bet a lot of MAGA would literally go out like that.Trauma, potential physical harm to others. A whole set of reasons they should be enforced. I get what you’re saying though.
Oh, I know it’s a bad point of view. In my defense I live in a no motorcycle helmet state. As long as you carry the insurance for it.
That is so fucking stupid lol. I guess you’re in a freedumb state?
My father was an anti-seatbelter up until 2010-ish, when he got a newer car with a better seatbelt system.
Aren’t belts not required in Utah
Also there are pro-asbestos movements
Even better, people in the 80s when drinking and driving was made illegal: https://youtu.be/2xcQIoh3FQQ
Still meet plenty of people who drink beer in the car
My step dad had like 4 or 5 DUIs. When I was in elementary school, me and my siblings would get the privilege of “helping” start the car by showing how awesome we were at breathing!
Like, if you can afford the lawyers and come off as the right kind of good ol’ boy it doesn’t seem to matter. I think at one point he got weekend prison. He’d drive us to school with a high ball sitting in the center console.
Lot of people in my town with “party plates”. Yellow plate with red letters to signal to cops that you are a frequent DUI fiend. No clue how youend up with those instead of just having your license revoked
There is this meme about:
Where’d you get a picture off all my elder family members in one place!? (j/k)
As a left libertarian, I have a hard time arguing against seatbelt laws. As in, I know they aren’t consistent with my ideology, but the outcomes of having these laws are so much better than not having them. The only thing that I can say against them is that they’re one of the more commonly used bullshit pretexts for initiating traffic stops. I rationalize this trade off and violation of ideals by pointing out that the government has created a fucked up transportation market by enforcing car centrism, and until we can unfuck that, we need to deal with the side effects.
I think the argument is more about the impact on others. If you aren’t wearing a seatbelt, you become a projectile that can harm others - both in your car and outside of your car.
In general, I agree that ideologically it’s a little uncomfortable to dictate personal choices, but when it comes to road safety I think the government has reasonable grounds to enforce certain expectations (same with things like insurance.)
It is uncomfortable to give police more pretenses to stop people but road safety perhaps is one of those things we could have a hypothetical “good police force” take care of.
Ehhhh… Traffic stops are more often than not excuses to fish for other, more serious violations or initiate a civil asset forfeiture. It’s actually one of the big reasons I’m hugely pro-transit and anti-car-centrism, because it robs the state of a huge excuse for initiating police contacts.
Government dictating that citizens MUST give money to a private company who then gives money to the politicians who make that mandate is wildly immoral. Insurance should be a government program.
Insurance as a whole should be a sort of “public union” thing. No profit motive, everyone who participates in something like driving has to pay some fee for insurance, maybe along with things like registration. Ideally along with massive improvements to public transit.
The concept of private insurance under capitalism seems at odds with itself. You have to pay out a good chunk less then you take in to turn a profit, and the best way to do that is be useless and fuck over your customers. (With health - Cigna was supposed to cover my top surgery. Pay for it up front be reimbursed reimbursed later. Then, later, it turns out that my employer specifically included a rider that excluded it. I’ve talked elsewhere about how I’ve paid CareCredit back.)
I don’t know if we should nationalize auto insurance without doing health insurance first though. Would the government be negotiating deals with mechanics? I think hospitals have structures that are easier to unionize and generally smarter/kinder folks than the general population. Mechanics tend to skew the type that’d get upset over navigating fender bender payouts with Uncle Sam, probably going to be harder to get to understand that their labor rights are good things.
Don’t forget airbags have also killed people.
People are emotional. They feel things, and then make up justifications for it afterwards. We all do this to some extent, in some contexts or others, but some people seem to do it the majority of the time.
Someone who smokes and has a choice between admitting they fucked up, they’re hurting themselves and those around them, OR denying it so they’re just a persecuted innocent? A lot of people will go for the latter. It’s weakness and cowardice, but saying that won’t change their mind. If results are wanted we have to do the very arduous task of massaging their emotions and I kind of resent that thankless, endless, work. Even though I almost certainly am the same way about other things.
Humans are a mess.
As a former smoker (now vaper) I understand and agree with non smokers about smoking inside.
However the people who bitch about smokers outside in public piss me off.
Yes my cigarette (now vape) is soooooo much worse than the exhaust of the thousands of cars /generators/construction equipment and so on that are constantly running all around us.
But out of sight out of mind. They can’t see all that exhaust shit so it doesn’t exist - But those fucking smokers how dare they.
I have asthma and when I walk past a smoker it makes it harder for me to breathe for a while afterwards. I don’t have the same issue with vapes though so I don’t really care about those even inside of they smell nice.
Some of us do struggle to breathe around vapes though. Not as bad as cigarettes but it’s still a problem
I just find it kida gross to inhale something that already was in someone elses lung. It doesn’t matter if it smells like cotton candy. It’s pointless and stupid
Looked it up and I had no idea how bad second hand vapor can be. I don’t vape or smoke but I’ll give them both the same level of stink eye going forward.
Yes my cigarette (now vape) is soooooo much worse than the exhaust of the thousands of cars /generators/construction equipment and so on that are constantly running all around us.
The problem is that nicotine itself isn’t a carcinogen, but increases the effectiveness of other carcinogens. So like, the nic is going to make that car exhaust/etc more harmful.
I don’t breath in exhaust either, fully concentrated. I have as much of a problem with diffused cigarette smoke as diffused exhaust, but I fucking hate smokers that make me breath in their second hand fully potent, carcinogenic, horrible smelling smoke.
I also get mad at people who drive cars instead of walking or taking mass transit, if that helps.
But someone smoking near you makes your day undeniably, immediately, worse.
If you’re sitting in a room that smells uncomfortably of cheese, and someone rips a juicy fart on your face, it would be unreasonable to be like “who cares about my shart it smells like cheese in here”
I stop bitching about smokers when they manage to not throw their garbage everywhere.
And yes i know, of course you are the one smoker that has a pocket ashtray.
I haven’t seen any car exhausts walking right next to me on the sidewalk though.
Real men aren’t held back by anything! The belt restricts blood flow through the body! It’s a globalist conspiracy to turn our men into women!
There’d be motherfuckers on TikTok snorting lines of asbestos
And MAGAs would grind it, bake it, and eat it. Just to own the libs.
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Back when asbestos was banned, everyone trusted the government. Nobody trusts the government anymore because of its constant foreign wars, corrupt candidates, and human rights abuses. We cannot do things like mandate vaccines and ban cars if the very government that would enforce that ban is this tyrannical and shitty.
Also, there are people who make money (or even just fake internet points) off of telling gullible people the opposite is true.
They should be held accountable for what they claim online.
And I mean someone who claims cigarettes don’t cause cancer are financially responsible if anyone who smokes a cigarette gets cancer. No need to prove they watched the channel or started smoking after seeing their video.
If you’re talking about YouTube, that place is already hell for video creators. Many organizations, like PragerU, were already funded by fracking companies to make their videos, and they’d have an easier time covering the costs, or convincing people or the government that something else caused the cancer. The internet needs a socialist overhaul, really, and I can’t find anything else that doesn’t spawn new problems.
Not specifically, also any and all social media. Influencers in general are a cancer on society
