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    2 months ago

    I never heard of the movie and was enjoying the content you created that I thought was supposed to be funny.

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    Why do people Google questions anyway? Just search “heat cast” or “heat Angelina Jolie”. It’s quicker to type and you get more accurate results.

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      I just tested. “Angelina jolie heat” gives me tons of shit results, I have to scroll all the way down and then click on “show more results” in order to get the filmography.

      “Is angelina jolie in heat” gives me this bluesky post as the first answer and the wikipedia and IMDb filmographies as 2nd and 3rd answer.

      So, I dunno, seems like you’re wrong.

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        Search engine algorithms are way better than in the 90s and early 2000s when it was naive keyword search completely unweighted by word order in the search string.

        So the tricks we learned of doing the bare minimum for the most precise search behavior no longer apply the same way. Now a search for two words will add weight to results that have the two words as a phrase, and some weight for the two words close together in the same sentence, but still look for each individual word as a result, too.

        More importantly, when a single word has multiple meanings, the search engines all use the rest of the search as an indicator of which meaning the searcher means. “Heat” is a really broad word with lots of meanings, and the rest of the search can help inform the algorithm of what the user intends.

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        both queries give me poor results and searching “heat cast” reveals that she is not actually in the movie, so that’s probably why you can’t find anything useful

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        Have people just completely forgot how search engines work? If you search for two things and get shit results, it means those two things don’t appear together.

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            I mean, when even people on Lemmy (who are supposed to be a bit more tech literate and stuff) insist that the solution is cutting a couple 2 letter words from your search query to make everything much shorter and efficient, are you even surprised?

            I’ve been thinking for a while that people seem to be getting dumber and it might actually be true I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that fascism and other forms of conservatism seem to be on the rise pretty much everywhere in the world.

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      Why do people Google questions anyway?

      Because it gives better responses.

      Google and all the other major search engines have built in functionality to perform natural language processing on the user’s query and the text in its index to perform a search more precisely aligned with the user’s desired results, or to recommend related searches.

      If the functionality is there, why wouldn’t we use it?

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      Because that’s the normal way in which humans communicate.

      But for Google more specifically, that sort of keyword prompts is how you searched stuff in the '00s… Nowadays the search prompt actually understands natural language, and even has features like “people also ask” that are related to this.

      All in all, do whatever works for you, it’s just that asking questions isn’t bad.

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        Google is not a human so why would you communicate with it as if it were a human? unlike chatgpt it’s not designed to answer questions, it’s designed to search for words on webpages

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          We spend most of our time communicating with humans so we’re generally better at that than communicating with algorithms and so it feels more comfortable.

          Most people don’t want to learn to communicate with a search engine in its own language. Learning is hard.

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          Except Google has been optimizing for natural language questions for the last decade or so. Try it sometime, it’s really wild

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          Because we’re human, and that’s a human-made tool. It’s made to fit us and our needs, not the other way around. And in case you’ve missed the last decade, it actually does it rather well.

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      As a funny challenge I like to come up with simplified, stupid-sounding, 3-word search queries for complex questions, and more often than not it’s good enough to get me the information I’m looking for.

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    It’s hilarious I got the same results with Charlize Theron with the exact same movie, I guess we both don’t know who actresses are apparently.

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    A statistical model predicted that “in heat” with no upper-case H nor quotes, was more likely to refer to the biological condition. Don’t get me wrong: I think these things are dumb, but that was a fully predictable result. (‘…the movie “Heat”’ would probably get you there).

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      While I get your point of the capital H thing, Google’s AI itself decided to put “heat” in quotes all on its own…

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      I tried the search myself and the non-AI results that aren’t this Bluesky post are pretty useless, but at least they’re useless without using two small towns’ worth of electricity

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        Non-AI results are not going to generally include sites about how something isn’t true unless it is a common misconception.

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      It’s not just any human though, it’s an actor, so movie related words should statistically be more likely.

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      As a comparison I ran the same all lower case query in bing and got the answer about the movie because asking about a movie is statistically more likely than asking if a human is in heat. Google’a ai is worse than fucking bing, while google’s old serach algorith consistently had the right answers.

      Google made itself worse by replacing a working system with ai.

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        It might be the way Bing is tokenizing and/or how far back it’s looking to connect things when compared to Google.

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        Kagi quick answers for comparison gets this tweet, but now it thinks that heat is not the movie kind lol

        The AI ouroboros in action

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      Because you’re not getting an answer to a question, you’re getting characters selected to appear like they statistically belong together given the context.

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        A sentence saying she had her ovaries removed and that she is fertile don’t statistically belong together, so you’re not even getting that.

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          You think that because you understand the meaning of words. LLM AI doesn’t. It uses math and math doesn’t care that it’s contradictory, it cares that the words individually usually came next in it’s training data.

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            It has nothing to do with the meaning. If your training set consists of a bunch of strings consisting of A’s and B’s together and another subset consisting of C’s and D’s together (i.e. [AB]+ and [CD]+ in regex) and the LLM outputs “ABBABBBDA”, then that’s statistically unlikely because D’s don’t appear with A’s and B’s. I have no idea what the meaning of these sequences are, nor do I need to know to see that it’s statistically unlikely.

            In the context of language and LLMs, “statistically likely” roughly means that some human somewhere out there is more likely to have written this than the alternatives because that’s where the training data comes from. The LLM doesn’t need to understand the meaning. It just needs to be able to compute probabilities, and the probability of this excerpt should be low because the probability that a human would’ve written this is low.

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              Honestly this isn’t really all that accurate. Like, a common example when introducing the Word2Vec mapping is that if you take the vector for “king” and add the vector for “woman,” the closest vector matching the resultant is “queen.” So there are elements of “meaning” being captured there. The Deep Learning networks can capture a lot more abstraction than that, and the Attention mechanism introduced by the Transformer model greatly increased the ability of these models to interpret context clues.

              You’re right that it’s easy to make the mistake of overestimating the level of understanding behind the writing. That’s absolutely something that happens. But saying “it has nothing to do with the meaning” is going a bit far. There is semantic processing happening, it’s just less sophisticated than the form of the writing could lead you to assume.

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              Unless they grabbed discussion forums that happened to have examples of multiple people. It’s pretty common when talking about fertility, problems in that area will be brought up.

              People can use context and meaning to avoid that mistake, LLMs have to be forced not to through much slower QC by real people (something Google hates to do).

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    You’ve sullied my quick answer:

    The assistant figures it out though:

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      Maybe that’s why ai had trouble determining anything about AJ & the movie Heat, because she’s wasn’t even in it!

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    Google was fine as it was before, now it does shit like this. I hate how AI is shoved down our throats. And the results on google nowadays feel so much worse and generic than a few years ago. That isn’t just a feeling I have, right?

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      They’re an ad company that just happens to offer search as a way to show ads.

      Their ideal scenario is one where you search forever and never find what you were looking for.

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        They’re walking the fine line between being shitty enough that you have to refine your search multiple times (thus allowing them to show you more ads), but not being SO shitty that you give up and never come back.

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          This has been effectively proven by email chains made public through court proceedings. Former head of search left sometime around 2015 because the ad team was being allowed to make search worse to pump their numbers.

          New head of search was the guy who ran Yahoo’s search department while they got eaten alive by Google, and he had been working Google’s Ad division after he left Yahoo.

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        It been a downhill slope that just keeps getting steeper. They’re basically falling off a cliff right now, and their parachute is improving AI.

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      Not just you. I feel like search modifiers like “NOT” or “OR” haven’t been working for a good long while either.

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      Add obscenities to your search for the most optimized results. It drops the AI component and seems to provide the more direct results we used to get.

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            Debian Linux Script…

            TR1X-Debian-3.sh

            
            #!/bin/bash
            
            if [ -f ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh ]; then
            
                # Simply run the game startup script and exit...
                pushd ./
                    cd ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian
                    ./TR1X.sh
                popd
                exit
            
            else
            
                # Create temporary download folder
                if [ ! -d /tmp/TR1X-download ]; then
                    mkdir /tmp/TR1X-download
                fi
            
                # Download and extract game engine tarball
                pushd ./
                    cd /tmp/TR1X-download
                    if [ ! -f TR1X-3.0.2-Debian.tar.gz ]; then
                        wget http://web.archive.org/web/20231122035737if_/https://files.catbox.moe/lc2sqz.gz
                        mv lc2sqz.gz TR1X-3.0.2-Debian.tar.gz
                    fi
                    if [ ! -d ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian ]; then
                        mkdir ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian
                    fi
                    pushd ./
                        cd ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian
                        if [ ! -f TR1X ]; then
                            tar -xvf /tmp/TR1X-download/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian.tar.gz
                        fi
                    popd
                popd
            
                # Nude Raider Title Screen
                if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/titleh.png ]; then
                    pushd ./
                        cd /tmp/TR1X-download
                        wget https://tinyurl.com/nr1xtitle
                        mv nr1xtitle titleh.png
                        rm ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data/titleh.png
                        cp titleh.png ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data/titleh.png
                    popd
                fi
            
                pushd ./
                    cd /tmp/TR1X-download
                    if [ -f /tmp/TR1X-download/titleh.png ]; then
                        if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.rar ]; then
                            wget https://tinyurl.com/nuderaid
                            mv nuderaid tombraid.rar
                        fi
                    else
                        if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.rar ]; then
                            wget https://tinyurl.com/wombraid
                            mv wombraid tombraid.rar
                        fi
                    fi
            
                    type -P unrar > /dev/null && echo || sudo apt-get install unrar
                    unrar x /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.rar /tmp/TR1X-download
            
                    if [ -f /tmp/TR1X-download/titleh.png ]; then
                        7z x /tmp/TR1X-download/nuderaid.iso
                    else
                        7z x /tmp/TR1X-download/tombraid.iso
                    fi
            
                    cp /tmp/TR1X-download/Data/*.* ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data
                    mkdir ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/fmv
                    cp /tmp/TR1X-download/Fmv/*.* ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/fmv
            
                    if [ ! -f /tmp/TR1X-download/music.zip ]; then
                        wget https://tinyurl.com/tr1xmusic
                        mv tr1xmusic music.zip
                    fi
                    if [ ! -d ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/music ]; then
                        mkdir ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/music
                        unzip /tmp/TR1X-download/music.zip -d ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian
                    fi
            
                popd
            
                # Modern TR1X doesn't recognize the original PCX images
                rm ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/data/*.pcx
            
                # Clean temporary files
                if [ -d /tmp/TR1X-download ]; then
                    rm -r /tmp/TR1X-download
                fi
            
                # Generate startup script...
                if [ ! -f ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh ]; then
                    rm ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh
                    echo "#!/bin/bash" > ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh
                    echo "./TR1X" >> ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh
                    chmod 755 ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh
                fi
            
                # Initialize the game...
            #    if [ -f ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian/TR1X.sh ]; then
            #        pushd ./
            #            cd ~/Desktop/TR1X-3.0.2-Debian
            #            ./TR1X.sh
            #        popd
            #    fi
            
            fi
            
            
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                I get bored sometimes.

                Hope the script didn’t give you any trouble.

                If you comment out the title screen download section, it’ll install regular Tomb Raider instead.

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    It also contradicts itself immediately, saying she’s fertile, then immediately saying she’s had her ovaries removed end that she’s reached menopause.

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    Leaving aside the fact that this looks like AI slop/trash bait; who the fudge is so clueless as to think Ashley Judd, assuming that she’s who they’re confusing, looks anything like Angelina Jolie back then

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      First, it’s the internet, you can cuss. Either structure the sentence not to include it at all or just cuss for fuck’s sake. Second, not everyone knows every actor/actress or is familiar, especially one that’s definitely not in the limelight anymore like Ashley Judd. Hell even when she was popular she wasn’t in a lot.