I’m so sure that this will happen…
Tesla will begin its roll out of its self-driving Robotaxi fleet in multiple US cities in the months to come, already taking appropriate regulatory steps in both California and Texas.
Anyone want to take bets on how many deaths/injuries will there be before they’re pulled?
Infinite is valid all things considered.
Anyone want to take bets on how many deaths/injuries will there be before they’re pulled?
DOGE will make sure it won’t be pulled. They’ll shut down any administration that tries.
This LiDAR tech vs Tesla video makes me wish Tesla will use LiDAR in their self-driving Robotaxi fleet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ&t=556s
They won’t. Musk has a hard-on for doing everything with visible cameras for some stupid reason.
Because he’s cheap and didn’t wanna spend the money. It’s why the interior is so plain for the amount of money you spend.
Infinite is valid all things considered.
Not really. I mean that would require a timeline where humanity is both stupid enough to keep Tesla around and survives indefinitely which is highly unlikely.
Infinite just means it will never be pulled for causing accidents.
Okay, in that case I guess it is possible that we are stupid enough to keep them around and stupid enough to wipe ourselves out so soon that they will be around until the end of humanity.
[ Doubt ]
And also, who doesn’t want hundreds to thousand of miles put against your warranty.
Assuming there is any reality to this (big assumption), I assume you are looking at the distance to the nearest distribution center (so Tesla “Not a dealership for legal reasons”). So a lot closer to hundred than not.
Mostly because Factory->House requires a lot of automated charging technology. Whereas Factory->Truck->Dealership->House still lets them take advantage of scale (a truck truck) and can go on a single battery charge.
Yeah, I live like 10 miles from a Tesla dealership, about 1k from a Tesla factory. If having the car drive to me is cheaper than loading it on a truck and taking it to my local dealership, I’m fine with it having 1k miles.
This is all hypothetical though. There’s no way this timeframe is happening.
The shortest distance between Tesla and your house is a full circle around the country.
Also at the odometer rate of Tesla Miles, where the warranty runs out faster.
Aka they save on delivery costs and your new car racks up miles on your own dime.
If it waives the destination fee, then I don’t see it as a bad problem depending on how much it would normally cost to deliver vs how many miles.
Dealers: charge bullshit fee
Mftr: “get rid of this bullshit fee by racking up miles right from the factory”
Customer: “this is such a phenomenal deal!”
bullshit fee
Do you think shipping and transportation of goods is free? Do you think truck drivers drive stuff around out of the goodness of their hearts?
Nope, but it also isn’t my problem. Roll it into the price of the car, like everything else, and it can be part of the price that you can discuss and haggle over. Coming to a 50k price just to see another 1k+ this and 1.5k that tacked on is absolute bullshit.
Except that not every place is next to the car factory. Delivery to Portland, Maine is going to be a much different price in comparison to Austin, Texas. Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price? Do you know that those vary from location to location as well?
When did I say that every place was near an assembly line…? I said ‘not my problem’. It’s a company, they can figure it out.
And yes, yes I do. Again, not my problem. It’s almost like different locations can set different prices or something to compensate for variables. Amazing, what a concept!
Advertising cars would never be feasible on nationally broadcast TV under your system.
They did figure out the problem though. Price set by the manufacture, show cost for delivery on the window sticker, then when you buy they car the title and tax are figured out for where you live. It’s the fairest and easiest way of showing and figuring the price. If you can’t figure out that window stickers are available online and the tax and title yourself before you buy, that’s a you problem. It’s not on the seller nor the manufacturer to post pricing for every state or municipality.
If you want cleaner pricing, demand an end to titling and car taxes.
Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price?
As a European, yes. Absolutely fucking yes. I drove a Model 3 away (a while ago obviously) with all papers in order paying exactly the listed price.
Eh, I live <1k miles from a Tesla factory, and I wouldn’t be too annoyed at having 1k miles on it when it gets to me. Knock the price down a bit since you no longer need to ship it everywhere and we’re good.
We all know this isn’t happening anytime soon, so I guess it’s only a hypothetical. We can talk once it’s a reality.
I’d want whatever the warranty was to be the same plus the miles.
So if it’s 5 year 50k miles and I get it at 1k, I 'd want 5 year 51k miles.
I suppose that’s fair. But you’re unlikely to see much difference with 1k miles.
your new car racks up miles on your own dime before you even get to drive it.
What? LOL Do you derive some sort of satisfaction from sitting in the driver’s seat in traffic and watching the miles rack up?
Have you never had something delivered to you before? Does the amazon driver pick you up and take you to the warehouse so you can personally pick up your package?
I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say. Are you under the impression that Tesla operates a concierge service that picks you up from your home?
No. What I’m saying is you can have the car delivered to you without it racking up miles by carrying it on a semi. Having it drive itself to you starts depreciation before you even get to ride in it, not to mention the warranty limits based on mileage. What you said in your original comment about expecting to be picked up so you can drive it back home is ridiculous.
Okay so the car driving itself to you is ridiculous. Having someone drop you off to pick up the vehicle is ridiculous. How does the car get to your house without being ridiculous, exactly?
By being delivered on a truck? Not sure if this is a regional thing if you’re not in the US, but it’s not unusual to get a car delivered to your house on a flatbed truck or semi in the US. How do you think cars get transported around the country?
They get delivered to the dealership, not your house?
Ever used your eyes while driving? You’ve probably seen those car transport semis loaded up with new vehicles, transporting them to dealerships.
It’s not happening.
Imagine it gets into an accident lol.
Who gets charged?
If you thought insurance was expensive before…
Surely it would be Tesla since you don’t actually have possession of it, right? Right??
Tesla “FSD” switches off seconds before an accident, so this will be interesting.
“we planned for this edge case, and have programmed the vehicle to quickly leave the scene of any accident where a driver is not present. by accepting delivery (by purchasing a vehicle) you accept that all vehicles are sold as-is. tesla insurance customers get half-off repair claim deductibles for the first 7 days.”
Yeah, no.
That would be true if any of this self driving shit actually existed, but it doesn’t. Elmo lies. A lot. About everything. So this? He’s just lying again .
It does, and I’ve heard its safer than humans in some cases, but there’s legal issues in the way. Like if a driverless car kills someone, who’s fault is it?
Where do you get any of that?
No, Elmo cara do not drive themselves. On the 5 steps to full self driving, Teslas barely make it to step 2. Full self driving doesn’t exist yet for any brand but most definitely not for Tesla
Definitely not into my house, fucker.
Everyone: Hey, I’ve seen this claim before! Elmo: What do you mean you’ve seen it? It’s brand new!
Sure Elon. Here, have another hit of ketamine.
Factory Floor is in China.
Sure, Jan.
Press F to doubt
F - You see it’s even less likely for me to buy a tesler, than it is for them to be self driving.
Don’t be so sure about that. I mean you could be tricked into buying one, blackmailed into buying one,… but for them to be actually self driving would require Elon Musk to be correct about something and that is obviously fundamentally against the laws of nature.
LoL, whoopsie doodles I accidentally bought a swasticar. I mean it’s not like I haven’t accidentally bought cars on at least 3 specific occasions in the past. Oh wait, it IS exactly like I’ve never accidentally bought a car in my life. Hmm, what are the statistics, tho? How many people have accidentally bought a car in the past? I suppose I could also win one in a raffle that someone entered me in, without my consent. A friend could just buy one for me. Anything can happen, it’s just that some things are far more likely.
People still listening to the grifter and his endless promises?
Elon Musk: Your new Tesla will get into a serious accident and be totaled before it even gets to your house ‘this year’ (and you’re still liable for it)
Riiiiiiiight
“It’s dirty. Why did you deliver it dirty?”
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