• CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    Will. Never. Happen.

    Canadians will literally die before living for a milisecond as Americans.

    And - this is a declaration of war by the US president. Cause it would take a military invasion to violently turn Canadians into Americans.

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      It has long been the case, that if you confuse a Canadian for an American they are offended, but if you confuse an American for a Canadian they don’t mind.

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        If the US invades, breaches our borders etc you can defintely help us from within.

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    FYI, this is unpopular among Canadian voters. Conservative underdog, tries to deny being a lapdog, or supporting the idea, but this unfiltered BS doesn’t help him. It’s just a sign that Trump is completely out of control surrounded only by people who must restrain themselves on pushback to only far stupider things he might say.

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    Hypothetically, if canada becomes a state, would they flip our house of representatives blue? I guess more likely they’ll become like puerto rico or guam or something.

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      I guess more likely they’ll become like puerto rico or guam or something.

      This is what you need to keep foremost in your mind. There is no conceivable reality in which the US conquers (yes conquers, they can call it annexation all they want but at the end of the day Trump wants a conquest to his name) Canada and gives any semblance of voting or personal rights to Canadians. Hell, even if Canada was somehow persuaded into voluntarily joining the US, this regime would never, ever honour any kind of arrangement that gave Canadians a fair deal. They are fascist bullies, as close to actual evil as we’ve seen in North America in a very long time, and they have no interest in any sort of fair bargain.

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      Poilievre alrady said he wants to align more with Trump’s America. He’ll absolutely sell us out.

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              Yeeaaaahhh, another one of those things that sounds nice on paper… No thanks, but thanks.

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                  Oh of course it is.

                  My problem is that you apparently are one of those “if it isn’t my way it’s the wrong way” kinda guy on this topic.

                  Anarchism isn’t the only alternative, so to say, and very much not the best one as in reality it won’t scale Because human beings are a bit of a dick, in general. Same goes for communism, it requires you to kill a lot of people and basically become a dictatorship.

                  I’m very much for a highly limited form of capitalism (which at it’s core isn’t bad, it’s the freedom to freely trade) with loads of laws in place to limit the size of it (no company larger than 1000 employees, no company larger than networth of 50 million, no personal net worth larger than 10 million, that sort of stuff) and loads of taxes to apply those laws (no taxes for the poor, richest pay up to 100% income after certain level, etc, to always make sure nobody gets too rich, too powerful

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      Right, but then just doing it by including more countries in the schengen agreement or something similar.

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    What is it with Trump and always “being subsidized by us” and “take away from us” while the US has trillions of debt in other countries? 300 billions to my home country alone, which doesn’t even compare to other countries.

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        He trusts that his followers don’t, anyway. Based on some arguments I’ve seen online, he’s right about that.

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          I mean, he always calls trade deficit a “subsidy”, and has since 2016. I honestly don’t think he understand what that concept means, he’s not that subtle with manipulation.

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      He is incapable of understanding mutual trade and cooperation. To him every human interaction must have a winner and a loser. So if Canada is benefiting from trade with the US in his mind it must be at America’s expense. It’s a disturbingly simple view of trade and cooperation, and one that makes actual good faith discourse with the US near impossible.

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      Because Trump is a troll. He doesn’t give a shit if what he says or does is correct. Trying to make sense of the schmuck gives me a headache.

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      He keeps referring to the disproportionate US export income to import costs. Something like 2 trillion in exports to 3 trillion in imports. 1 trillion lost from the US every year, and ~30% to Canada that’s his math

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    I would not ordinarily recommend Hitler’s tactics and strategies as a general rule, but he sure knew how to solve the Hitler problem, at the very end. Donny, maybe look into that.

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      Well Poilievre, who’s party lost tonight, has been extremely limp-wristed in his opposition to Trump’s threats, but he hasn’t outright said he’d surrender, just implied it with his weak rhetoric. More likely to me is that Trump in his dementia ridden mind was literally calling for people to vote for him. Like somehow enough Canadians would write Trump on their ballots that it would “win” the election for him, which demonstrates such a fundamental lack of understanding about our electoral system that I don’t even know where to begin.

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      Yes, indeed. If you check out Poilievre’s platform, he almost entirely mimics Trump’s, right down to promoting Canada’s own version of DOGE. That’s why there was such a huge turnout at the voting booths. The writing was on the wall with that guy and becoming American was not what the majority of us wanted.