Download the Downloader / Viewer at https://kiwix.org/.
Get your own backed up copy and keep it on a thumb drive.
Better fucking not. Wikipedia is my life bruh.
You can’t kill Wikipedia. MediaWiki is free software. If hosting in the US proves to be too hostile, the foundation can either pack up and host elsewhere, and even if they don’t, anyone else can easily host their own Wikipedia as well.
I’m not here to be a doomer but bet neutrality was murdered.
You can download Wikipedia to your computer. It’s big but it’s not an unreasonable download size. Many people have backed it up already!
It’s very unlikely to disappear without someone having a copy.
Does it matter? History only matters if actions in the now are justified by interpretations of the past.
Thanks to the internet, we have instant access to the experience of billions of people. All human experience is already there and doesn’t have to be approximated by history.
The problem is:
So many of those voices are idiots.
So if you can get enough idiots to say something, it kind of becomes the truth.
So we need software that enhances the voices of those who we want to hear.
And yet, despite having instant access to the Internet you write this utter bullshit. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
The past doesn’t tell you what to do, especially not when your recordings of history are wrong. If you cannot trust your history, how are you going to make decisions?
That’s a very uneducated take, and shows that you don’t understand how access to information can be changed, and modeled to elicit certain outcomes.
Unbiased, well cited repositories of information are essential.
I agree, for the way our societies are structured.
My point is that we could organize us in a way that history could provide additional depth but that the essential decisions could be made as well without the knowlege of history.
That “could” is doing a lot of work for that premise. We are currently structured as an amalgam of disparate chains of systems interacting with each other in loosely defined ways.
If you want to take the ability of sovereign entities to self determine, then sure we “could” organize in this other way.
But we don’t have a god emperor of earth, so we will need to rely on this loose consensus instead of a dictated one.
Why does it have to be dictated? People can freely organize in a democratic way.
The problem is that people may join just because it is better, without fully supporting the respect towards others that is needed in such a system.
Things don’t happen that way. “Can, may, could” means that there will be pockets of people that don’t subscribe to the ideology and undermine it.
That’s the challenge. I still believe that it is possible.
Alright, thanks for confirming my opinion.
First of all, they aren’t going to kill Wikipedia.
Second, Wikipedia isn’t even close to being the only place to get your history. There’s this neat little place called a fucking library. You can go there for free.
-Elon has repeatedly stated he wants to defund and shut down all nonprofits that upset him. This includes the ACLU and Wikipedia
-DOGE has already started cuts to public libraries and many are being shut down or greatly reduced hoirs/access/materials/etc
It would be awesome if people like you had some intellectual humility instead of coping with hubris. It’s a fucking issue that our admin and many fellow Americans are ushering in an anti-intellectual dark ages.
they’re trying to kill PBS. NPR.
Anything to prevent an informed public.
They want to make us all like their voting base in the south.
Inbred, ignorant and hateful.
chill the fuck out, doomer. Wikipedia has enough cash on hand to survive for the next several decades, even if Trump takes away their non-profit status. he can throw a fit about them all he wants, the absolute worst case scenario here is they just move offices to somewhere in Europe.
Gee, love hearing that during the active coup of the world order and democracy by BRICS and their stopges. That kinda makes you on their side, and a gaslighting piece of shit.
https://newrepublic.com/post/192854/elon-musk-doge-police-independent-nonprofit-usip
Look - he can just tell the cops to arrest the leaders. He can just take it. That’s what he is doing and has done. He can asset forfeiture their funds if accessible to him or allied (to him) nations. Our laws are collapsing beneath us. He can do what he wants because he is owned by Russia and by extension BRICS. He has to do as they say and he fears them more. He doesnt have to obey our laws. He has to obey Putin and Xi.
Absolute worst case scenario in 2016 is that they’d move offices. Get with the times - we have a genocidal, demented leader who signs whatever people tell him to because he is owned by foreign governments. He sold us out for money and to avoid prison. It’s literally what is occurring. Doomerism implies a future thing that could be negative- he is already interfering with and seizing nonprofits. Thats reality.
trump can’t do shit as long as people keep fighting him. doesn’t matter how many people he throws in prison or lines up against the wall, we beat fascism to a bloody pulp once before and we’ll do it again. I’m sorry if you’re so depressed about what’s happening that you’ve lost your will to fight, but take a breather if you need to because the rest of us have your back and will take over while you get better.
wikipedia is gonna live a lot longer than trump will, and there will come a day very soon when we’re dancing in the streets while he’s being laid to rest in the cold, hard ground. and no amount of MAGA bullshit or pessimism from people who have given up is gonna change that future.
What exactly has ever happened to Trump? When has he EVER gotten a consequence in actual proportion to what he’s done?
You know where I heard this before? “The Mueller Report.” And before the 2024 election. “Trump can’t. He’ll be stopped.” Historically, he hasn’t, and he has multiple foreign governments and their intelligence agencies aiding him and attacking US people on our own soil and disappearing them to El Salvador.
I’m glad you’re so willing to risk their lives while you do nothing but deny our present reality and suck on your grandpa’s teets from WW2. You aren’t him. For starters, he probably didn’t deny that Hitler was seriously fucking things up.
we beat fascism to a bloody pulp once before and we’ll do it again
You cant even acknowledge that he may seize fascist control of Wikipedia lol. You’re weak mentally, you aren’t going to war against anything. We can all see that. The men in this country are the most shameful, disappointing, pathetic things I’ve ever witnessed.
you’ve lost your will to fight, but take a breather if you need to because the rest of us have your back and will take over while you get better
No, you won’t, and I won’t stop informing and fighting. None of you even understand what BRICS is. I have had a write up since DECEMBER accurately detailing what’s happening and Ive been CORRECT on all of it, including telling people IN DECEMBER he was going to deport US citizens to El Salvador. I was told this same shit you’re saying now then, and again, I HAVENT BEEN WRONG, YOU FUCK, AND I HAVE BEEN TIRELESSLY TYPING ON MULTIPLE APPS TO INFORM PEOPLE SO THEY DONT DIE.
PLEASE, EAT SHIT, COWARD.
Normally I would just mock you by pointing out that liberals stay in the tweets while leftists get out on the streets, but you’re obviously suffering from mental illness and I don’t think it’s very nice to make fun of people who are clearly having a mental breakdown, judging by your totally normal reaction.
As for BRICS, IDK why you even brought that up, but two of the biggest members are having active border clashes with each other, a third has depleted their conventional army due to their strategic genius in Ukraine, and two others want to fuck off and have nothing to do with any of the rest. But sure, instead of accepting that Trump is a symptom of the inherently flawed system WE built here in the United States, let’s just blame the most dysfunctional Wish.com EU knock-off trade partnership in the world cause that’s easier and we get to pretend our own shit doesn’t stink.
Also, hey @antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com, turns out it’s uh checks notes BRICS that’s censoring Wikipedia to convince you not to drink your own pee.
Yup, bunch of totally normal people in these comments.
I think you misunderstood. The terminally ill cancer patient is getting urine salts from cancer free individuals. Nowhere on Wikipedia did anybody claim a benefit from the drinking of one’s own urine. Leave that to the alchemists.
Why did I bring up BRICS? Lol, exactly. It all hinges on BRICS making a new currency and to do that, they must topple Western currency, especially USD. To topple USD, you must harm the stock market/commodities (done with tariffs), you must hurt the bond market (currently working on it), and you must collapse real estate (working on it last). They have 2/3 approaching completion, with China dumping bonds (because they planned it). They also need to siphon our gold away from us (which is why Elon and Trump want access to Fort Knox and national parks/forests) so we can’t gave any wealth when gold-backed BRICS currency drops. BRICS is literally called “gold bricks” in China.
two of the biggest members are having active border clashes with each other
Who?
a third has depleted their conventional army due to their strategic genius in Ukraine
And guess what, China is sending and has sent North Korean soldiers and weapons to them to help them.
and two others want to fuck off and have nothing to do with any of the rest
Who?
They all very much want the US to not have control of their markets or money and have been fighting a very sophisticated war. All of your ad hominems dont change the very real and specific actions these governments have done to:
- collapse western finances, as is their stated goal since formed in 2008
- accrue the commodities that BRICS currency will be backed by, mainly gold
- interfere with global elections, with protests in Romania, Georgia, Serbia, Slovakia, and others
- make every policy Trump puts out benefit them. Literally every single one benefits a BRICS nation at some level, including renaming Gulf of Mexico and claiming it, which then gives CHINA more validity to claim the South China Sea. Trump is their foil, their scapegoat, to ramp up WW3 so they can say it wasnt their fault.
Oh and btw your ableism is a Nazi thing, maybe stop with that. I’ll be sure to forget about you, disgusting coward, but in a few months you’ll sure be remembering me. Good luck.
As of 2025, the English Wikipedia has 63,040,591 pages. The current text content in all its pages is about 156 GB in size. When counting all the revisions in histories, the size is 26,455 GB (26 TB).
I’m sure many people have already archived this at the least. Or snapshots, at a minimum. Not sure if that’s uncompressed, but if so, compression would save a shitload of that.
That’s uncompressed, the compressed archive is just over 102GB. And yes, you can download the entirety of Wikipedia as a single archive, and they tell you how on Wikipedia itself. The easiest way is probably Kiwix.
And not just the whole thing, either, you can download specific topics, or the top 100 articles, or the whole thing in simple English without pictures, etc.
The 102GB includes pictures then? That’s insane.
I honestly don’t know, I’ve only downloaded the archive with the simple English articles and no pictures. that was only like 900mb or so. I imagine there’s some sort of image optimization that’s done on all images uploaded to the site. And when you think about it, most articles don’t actually have images with them. So the 102gb might be the whole thing.
I can say for sure that the archive does include at least some images, because it says it does. I do plan on downloading it at some point so I can make a local mirror of Wikipedia with my Raspberry Pi, but I haven’t bought a drive for it yet and don’t want to use one of the ones I have now for it because I have Ventoy and a bunch of ISOs on it.
books exist
Not for long
You can dowload wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
here’s the torrent: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents#English_Wikipedia
like 20gb when packed, ~90 when unpackedAlso archive.org, idk which one to seed that personally fits my limited storage space, so i’ll just link the category, https://archive.org/details/wikimediadownloads
there’s also this, but idk about it, just listing options🤷♀️ https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/
*just in case someone thinks its suspicious: they were all linked directly from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download under the “Where do I get the dumps?” section
Thank you so much for this. I have been trying to offline Wikipedia for months but the torrent links on the kiwix site are broken or something. They stall out for me in the first 10m everytime. The download from your link is working perfectly.
It’s not going to be much use to you if you don’t have a parser, though there are html dumps somewhere iirc.
Kiwix will parse the en_all .zim file just fine… I’ve got and tested it at this point, the issue I was having is that I couldn’t get Kiwix’s own link to successfully download the file.
I mean every historical source is full of one sided propaganda.
Have you ever heard the phrase “history is written by winners”?
What have keep history alive is not Wikipedia. Is the fact that multiple people from multiple POV write things down and we can find and read multiple sources.
Don’t get me wrong, Wikipedia is great, but it’s not what keeps history more or less accurate. Take into account that Wikipedia is a sum up of other sources. In order to write to Wikipedia you must quote a primary source.
And AI really doesn’t have much to do with anything here. Bad sources have existed forever, since Herodotus.
If you think Wikipedia is the only place that stores historical knowledge, please, start thinking about how much time you’re spending online.
It is a modern library of Alexandria, free to all globally and community built. It’s genuinely an amazing surviving piece of the old internet. No one is saying it’s the only place, but it is vitally important and a huge deal if it goes away. Shame on you for downplaying that.
I’m not trying to downplay it, but to say it’s the be all and end all of all historical knowledge is factually incorrect and myopic.
Strawman, literally no one said that.
They don’t need or want to kill Wikipedia. They just need to heavily edit it. Kind of a dream come true for those pushing a narrative.
In my mind that would be killing it.
It’s already happened, and is still happening. So is it dead? Or maybe it’s been a half-aware zombie all along.
I’m curious. Examples?
One example:
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-fdas-relentless-persecution-of-0e4
From what I can gather this urine salt treatment has actually cured many terminally ill cancer patients. Medical journals refuse to acknowledge it because he didn’t give a placebo to patients (which would be unethical because they would die). Because the treatment is based on multiple compounds in the salt, it cannot be isolated, patented, and profited from. So it must be discredited and buried. Plus if it really works as well as it seems to, it would warrant further research funding into drinking urine, and possibly home remedies. Nip it in the bud.
In a recent post, I tried to introduce a conceptual tool which I (as humorously and self-deprecatingly as possible) named after myself. In brief, “The Kory Scale” (TKS) is based on the hypothesis that the more a new or existing medical therapy is attacked in a coordinated, sustained fashion by the medical establishment and media, the more likely the treatment is both highly effective and safe.
Okay, starting off with a made up fallacy is always a bad sign in science FYI… And so is going off that bad fallacy with more fallacies for 10 paragraphs.
Before I go further, I just want to celebrate that “there is a new Sheriff in town,” given my friend and colleague RFK Jr. is now the Secretary of Health and Human Services
LOL of course, that actually is pretty consistent w your pyramid conspiracies
Although I am not a criminologist, my understanding from movies and news reports
LOL
Let me just say straight off that I know little about anti-neoplaston therapy outside of what I learned in the documentary
LOL
The exact incidence and magnitude of effectiveness is thus unknown to me but I argue that based on its score on TKS
Please note that “TKS” is a made up thing by the writer, where if the scientific community doesnt like it, then it’s real/better by the ampunt they dislike it. It’s literally a vulnerable narcissist’s main thinking error. This is a vulnerable narcissist.
Let’s just move on to the claims you’re making:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
The compounds are not licensed as drugs but are instead sold and administered as part of clinical trials at the Burzynski Clinic and the Burzynski Research Institute.
Burzynski has since produced the compounds synthetically.
The Burzynski Clinic is a clinic selling an unproven cancer treatment, which has been characterized as harmful quackery.[1] It was founded in 1976 and is located in Houston, Texas, in the United States. It offers a form of chemotherapy originally called “antineoplaston therapy” devised by the clinic’s founder Stanislaw Burzynski in the 1970s. Antineoplaston is Burzynski’s term for a group of urine-derived peptides, peptide derivatives, and mixtures. There is no accepted scientific evidence of benefit from antineoplaston combinations for various diseases, and the Clinic’s claimed successes have not been replicated by independent researchers.
The clinic has been the focus of criticism primarily due to the way its antineoplaston therapy is promoted, the costs for people with cancer participating in trials of antineoplastons and problems with the way these trials are run. Legal cases have been brought as a result of the sale of the therapy without regulatory approval.
Burzynski is also the president and founder of a pharmaceutical company, the Burzynski Research Institute, which manufactures his antineoplaston drugs.
See the last line? Now tell me, how is he not ALSO PART of the Turf war your article is talking about?
Reviewers of his scientific papers have disputed the design of the trials and scientific validity of the published results.[12][13][14]
In February 2017, following lengthy hearings, the Texas Medical Board recommended Burzynski’s medical license be revoked, with the revocation suspended,[clarification needed] and a fine of $360,000 for billing irregularities and other violations.
So it’s not just Wikipedia against him, but also medical boards. SO again, no issue with Wikipedia here, or science, he just is grifting people and you dont get what science even is (hint: it’s reproducible results).
From A-10, antineoplaston AS2-1 was derived – a 4:1 mixture of phenylacetic acid and phenylacetylglutamine.[25] The Burzynski Clinic website states that the active ingredient of antineoplaston A10-I is phenylacetylglutamine
So we know what it is, and it can indeed be synthesized (how else would the body make it, lol). We also already have people taking grains of thyroid, ovaries, adrenal glands, testes - and those organs are also used to make pharmaceuticals. Nothing stopping people from drinking pee or eating medically relevant foods.
Further, you don’t always need a placebo for studies, you need a CONTROL group. Often the control group is given a placebo, but in this case, they could use other chemotherapy treatment as a control. They dont want to be more legitimate though, because their patients’ and their families would have better standing to sue them for lying/false advertising/snake oil. So no, it wasnt rejected for not having a placebo group and being too ethical to give cancer patients a placebo LOL
From 1991 to 1995, the NCI initiated multiple phase II trials of antineoplastons. In 1995, after over $1 million had been spent on these trials, they were stopped due to fundamental conflicts between NCI investigators and Burzynski and his employees, notably around Burzynski’s insistence on approving all protocols in the NCI trial.
The largest trial Burzynski registered was called CAN-1 and aimed to cover all clinic patients at that time. Jaffe wrote that CAN-1 was “a joke” of a clinical trial and explained the legal maneuvering:
The CAN-1 protocol had almost two hundred patients in it and there were at least a dozen different types of cancers being treated. And since all the patients were already on treatment, there could not be any possibility of meaningful data coming out of the so-called clinical trial. It was all an artifice, a vehicle we and the FDA created to legally give the patients Burzynski’s treatment. The FDA wanted all of Burzynski’s patients to be on an IND [Investigational New Drug (IND) Application], so that’s what we did.
The consensus among the professional community, as represented by the American Cancer Society[33] and Cancer Research UK[34] is that antineoplaston therapy is unproven, and the overall probability of the treatment turning out to be as claimed is low due to lack of credible mechanisms and the poor state of research after more than 35 years of investigation. Antineoplaston treatments have significant known side effects including severe neurotoxicity. Hypernatremia is also a significant risk given the high levels of sodium in antineoplaston infusions.
Gee, I dont think Wikipedia is the issue lol my word
The real cancer conspiracy is that corporations wont let us have Medicaid for All. That would detect cancer (and toxins) and allow us to class action sue companies for them. Cant sue if it was never detected. Thats why they find carcinogens and lead in kids’ products so much - their products dont have more lead in them, but kids all can be on Medicaid and that catches it. Flint, MI, water poisoning was detected by a kid on Medicaid.
There’s not really any conspiracy except one. Every billionaire and corporation seeks to profit above all other ethical considerations. I don’t know who’s correct regarding Burzynski, and I hope I’m never in a place to decide. But I don’t think it’s difficult for billionaires to brigade and rewrite any narrative that may profit them.
Wikipedia is great, but I don’t think it should be viewed as trustworthy or definitive as a source. In the same way billionaire-owned news corporations cannot be trusted to tell the whole truth. Wikipedia is a great place to start, but we could all use more practice following to source material, and to some extent I think Wikipedia reduces critical thinking.
You have actually got to be kidding me.
This is pseudoscience… It does seem like they threw the book at him.
But this stuff isn’t medicine man. I wouldn’t really call it effective at all. For Pete’s sake!!!
Even the guy who wrote the article Pierre Koy. Talking holistic approaches to treat long COVID. Bro it’s so easy to tell how people are based on the shit they spew.
Just remember people were taking ivermectin IVERMECTIN for COVID.
Do you even hear what you’re saying? There’s no way we can prove what’s in the salt but it definitely works.
Do you actually believe any of this stuff?? Dude just go ahead and drink the pee. Tell me how you feel I hope you don’t have cancer. I truly mean that
I don’t believe anything because I haven’t had terminal cancer or the treatment. I’m guessing you haven’t either. It’s not about choosing a side. It’s an illustration of corporate interests controlling the narrative from scientific journals, to media, social media, and Wikipedia. It would be naive to believe they can’t or don’t edit Wikipedia.
Any examples of Wikipedia trying to rewrite history?
The pyramids in Egypt were dated by radiocarbon dating, but those dates only indicated that the pyramid structure was inhabited or used at that time - it says nothing of the construction date. Yet the pyramids have dates with no cited references on Wikipedia. What is so wrong with saying that we don’t know with any certainty how, when, or why the structures were built?
Yeah, I get what kind of guy you are now.
Everyone itt note: this guy is against Wikipedia and thinks these things. This is EXACTLY WHY we need Wikipedia. He would literally be smarter if he had never used social media and had only used Wikipedia random article generator.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giza_pyramid_complex
All were built during the Fourth Dynasty of the Old Kingdom of ancient Egypt, between c. 2600 – c. 2500 BC
The Giza pyramid complex consists of the Great Pyramid (also known as the Pyramid of Cheops or Khufu and constructed c. 2580 – c. 2560 BC)
Tell me, what does the “c.” before those dates mean? It’s pretty explicitly an estimate. Have you ever bothered to click their source links for this info to understand why they got these dates?
Yeah, they could have been built by aliens who just wanted to share their urine salt treatment for cancer with us.
I mean they can try to censor it but I really don’t see why the wikimedia foundation wouldn’t just move shop to a different country, or a different group just starts running a mirror of it. Like it might be down for a while, at which time we would have to use mirrors, but I can’t see any future where its just gone forever.
Who are “they”?
Tech bros like musk who capture companies to gut them.
But Wikipedia isn’t a company. It’s a non-profit foundation.
Yes, and Musk this year said he would defund and potentially disband (for being “terrorist orgs”) any nonprofit he didnt like. He was kind of meaning the ACLU at the time but it includes Wikipedia too potentially for the disbanding part
There are a lot of citations to things like Britannica from 1911 that is archived and public domain.
Start downloading comrades
