More than half of Americans reported receiving at least one scam call per day in 2024. To combat the rise of sophisticated conversational scams that deceive victims over the course of a phone call, we introduced Scam Detection late last year to U.S.-based English-speaking Phone by Google public beta users on Pixel phones.
We use AI models processed on-device to analyze conversations in real-time and warn users of potential scams. If a caller, for example, tries to get you to provide payment via gift cards to complete a delivery, Scam Detection will alert you through audio and haptic notifications and display a warning on your phone that the call may be a scam.
No, no, Fuck You, no!!
I will have no phone that employs “Counterfeit Conciousness” to listen to every fucking word of every fucking conversation leading to (among others):
- Further training
- Data retention of complete call content somewhere (waiting to be hacked)
- Possible reports to LEO (or worse)
- …whatever else I can’t think of just now…
Fuck right off with this.
This solidifies for me I will never own a Pixel phone.
And, if this becomes ubiquitous in Android, I’ll have to rethink that, too.
Doesn’t mean I’ll necessarily go to iOS; more likely completely rethink having a phone at all.
Fuck Google entirely. Don’t be Evil my ass.
🙄 🤡 🖕 🖕
I mean, I would own a pixel phone… with linux on it…
We got baited by piece of shit journos
It’s a local model. It doesn’t send data over.
If they want call data they can buy it straight from service providers anyway
We got baited by piece of shit journos
It’s an official announcement written by Google.
Doesn’t mean I’ll necessarily go to iOS; more likely completely rethink having a phone at all.
Man cuts off nose to spite face; news at 11
Additionally, just fucking stop scammers from using fucking gift cards.
Surely it’s not that hard to detect that a gift card sold in Australia is being activated in Russia.
The gift card people have absolutely no motivation to fix this problem. They are making bank.
Obviously.
They need to be given motivation, through legal obligation.
Counterfeit consciousness
I like that
Fuck Android. Run Calyx or Graphene. it’s not difficult for any PC enthusiast.
Still based on garbage android. Android is just shit pilled on shit.
Linux can’t manage the cellphone blobs yet. I’ll be using linux on a phone when it works well.
unfortunately both of those have a very small list of supported devices.
Which include pixels
This ☝️, which nobody tells you, and then about 20 other things nobody tells you except that one Indian vlogger who installs everything on everything.
TL;DW - if you have a relatively recent Pixel, you’re probably good. Everything else, get out the forum posts, an old POS windows box you don’t mind trashing and start finding out what doesn’t work. You might get some Samsung to mostly work ok.
And next phone same person buys is the latest same pay by installments piece of lock downed shit hardware. And continue to complain on lack of support for shitty hardware, shitty firmware and shitty software. Stop buy shit , custom roms have been around since android 1.1 and GOS and Calyx aren’t recent inventions either.
Lineage official supports a fuckton of devices as well. Including every single pixel made. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ So quite well documented.
yeah, it’s all about individual priorities
Can’t back up everything on my phone without root and cant root without wiping the phone so…
How have you managed to save things on your phone you cannot back up without root?
You’re just straight fucked if this is true. Don’t save permanent things to your phone. Your phone is transient. Phones are not permanent.
This solidifies for me I will never own a Pixel phone.
Sounds like a pixel phone is exactly what u want just u want GrapheneOS on it.
Never recc that again, Linux phone or nothing
Linux phones don’t really exist as a practical thing you can replace android with.
Fxtec pro comes loaded with the users choice of android, Ubuntu touch, sailfish or lineage. Choices exist. Though I’ll have to find a bank that has a working app or a good website
Bro what’s wrong with GrapheneOS?
Pixel is the only device that is supported by GrapheneOS (sadly), so you can own Pixel just for installing grapheneOS on it.
So, it’s on device, which negates many of the above worries. Does that change things? I’m all good with private AI, personally. Slippery slope and all, though…
Since it’s processed on device they don’t (necessarily) need to transmit and store your conversations in some central location. I guess theoretically this could be done in a secure way.
That’s fine. I’m just not going to enable it.
Not enabling it may prevent you from accessing the user-facing features but may not actually prevent it from recording your conversation and training on it.
According to Google it only operates on device. If I didn’t trust Google with claims like that, I wouldn’t be using Android.
I’m just not going to
enabledisable it.
If people need to be warned that they might be scammed by someone with an Indian voice asking them for gift cards, I think that they should be reclassified as AI mounts instead of people at that point.
People do become more senile as they get older, but they need to recognize it as well as prepare ahead of it in time. Who knows, maybe being an AI pet mount then wouldn’t be so bad, as long as it was with an offline localized LLM-like AI vetted openly and widely, not the transparent excuse for abuse this is.
WTF. What could possibly go wrong. Flip phone here I come.
If enabled, Scam Detection will beep at the start and during the call to notify participants the feature is on. You can turn off Scam Detection at any time, during an individual call or for all future calls.
Scammers will quickly catch on then the real trick will be to just play that beep without any of the ai stuff.
The beep is legal compliance, because some states require notification of call recording. Same reason you hear “this call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes”.
More AI testing…
Give me call screening and filtering options so we can ignore the calls in the first place
I have graphing OS. I still get a ton of spam phone calls a day.
I’m apparently not enough of a software developer to figure out how to use SpamBlocker app. Anybody have any suggestions?
Dumb as I am, I have a Pixel… the good thing though? Graphene OS is an option.
Last I checked it’s only an option on non Verizon pixels or has Verizon stopped fucking things over.
Most people here: Yes, I bought an advertiser’s device, hooked up in a million ways to that advertiser’s services, who’s well known for monitoring every aspect of the life of every person they can, but how dare they monitor this part?
Spam protection is turned on automatically, and you’ll be notified when this happens. You can turn it off anytime in your settings:
Open Google Messages . At the top right, tap your Profile picture or Initials.
Tap Messages settings and then Spam protection. You’ll only find “Spam protection” if it’s available on your device. Turn Enable spam protection on or off.
I’m not seeing in my message settings. Anyone else?
They said it’s rolling out in beta. Spam Protection is already in the Messages app. Scam Protection is coming soon. But to listen to telephone audio that means they want to add it into the native dialer\phone app. Google has a dialer app named “Phone” with a Spam filter feature currently.
I assume that’s what is coming – a.i. into the dialer\phone app.
when i had a pixel5a, i would get multiple scam calls a day without fail, and almost always at the exact same time. with my new non-pixel, non-samsung and non-iphone i dont get as many as before, google is most likely selling your data to the very same scammers. i got a OP12R instead.
I had a pixel 5 for 4 years and this wasn’t my personal experience.
That really doesn’t make any sense at all
I’m so tired of this. It feels like an onslaught.
Back in 2008 or whatever I let Google handle my voicemails, and I enjoyed the convenience of the machine-transcriptions.
Now I wonder if my voicemails are being studied and trained on or whatever.
Yeah I just about had a meltdown trying to disable all the AI collection that Samsung phones come with nowadays. Phones are more like data harvesting engines than devices of utility. It’s gotten so much worse over the past 5 years. I mean it was never good but it’s making the internet nearly unusable if you want any kind of privacy.
Completely agree about watching the privacy destruction ramp up significantly in recent years. The one silver lining is that deciding how much and what to allow for myself and my children is just a lot easier, and even in less abusive scenarios, less smartphone use is good for basically all of us.
get a load of this: those people are allowed to vote. they cant follow a phonecall but feel entitled to make decisions about their country. cant make that up. go water plants with mountain dew!
And? Google’s been listening to you for years and not only in english.
