Are westerners being robbed of TP when we get the hollow rolls? Is communism the right path after all?
I see at least 3 plys.
Depends on how many sheets there are per roll, and how many layers.
toilet paper without cardboard roll centers are much cheaper to produce, though impossible to place in a toilet paper holder, so they sit on the sink, or the floor, or a long nail in the wall
Do they not have holders specifically designed for it? Could just have two rollers that support it from the bottom.
We used to have one at home. It’s like a clam shell – the roll sits in the bottom half, the hinged top half closes on top, and the paper is threaded through a wide gap.
It was popular in former Soviet territories. My guess is that many households only had poorly-built outhouses and no reliable supply of toilet paper, and this design protected the roll from water damage.
Well look at the genius who figured out the sea shells!
Did you model that whole thing just to show us what you meant?
Yep.
That’s awesome dude, nice work! I wish I were this good in blender. I have to use CAD to make my models and then export them to the scene in blender. It’s an annoying workflow but I’m just not good at “traditional” modeling in blender
There are plastic containers similar to box tissue but are round with a hole in the middle of the lid. Then you pull the toilet paper from the center of the roll.
they have tp holders for those tubeless rolls. It’s hung on the wall like a box with a slit at the bottom to pull the tp through.
Tbf I can’t remember the last time I used a toilet paper holder.
TBF I can’t remember the last time I used toilet paper.
Bidet shower master race.
you use it to place the roll standing on top
What’s my wife doing on Lemmy wrf
I get my servants to hold one for me while I need it
I mean, it’s own toilet roll, Micheal. What could it cost, 10 dollars?
There are some commercial rolls I’ve seen in the US that seem to be a happy medium…the holder itself in the stall has a thin plastic rod for the TP to go on, and the rolls have a very small opening in the center (and no cardboard) to go on that rod.
Where do you think all the centers of our TP go?
They sell them as donut holes near the airport
I’ve been on Lemmy for about a year, so I’m certain that communism is the only right path.
Same, I’ve installed Arch on my ThinkPad, shaved my legs and put on knee high stockings. I also give every car a middle finger and swear when walking past parking lots. Lemmy has radicalized me in surprising ways.
Legitimately curious about the stockings. I get all the other jokes in this thread but that one went over my head.
They transed their gender
I like your profile picture.
I appreciate me some Superintendent love. 👍
But do you hate AI?
I fucking hate it. I’ve lost all my friends because I was just spamming anti AI memes from Lemmy to everyone I knew. They’ve all blocked me, but I’d like to think they will think twice before “doing AI”.
loathe. i loathe ai
did you libreboot it tho?
and also use framework
I’m sorry, the right answer was anarchosyndicalism.
Send this red fascist class traitor to the mines.
Good man! It also happened to be Vietnams national holiday here yesterday, and so there were national flags and hammer and sickle flags everywhere, festivals, and street performances about Ho Chi Minh and the struggle aganst France, China, US, and TBH i never felt so patriotic for a country not my own!
It’s their Independence Day, September 2nd.
Yes, the night time street festivals and celebrations were amazing in Hanoi and Ninh Binh, Im so lucky I happened to come at this time.
and 2 weeks later will be the Moon Festival. It’s like the whole city is on hallucinogens LOL so many light and colors.
In Brazil I saw a toiled paper that the center was filled with another roll, so you’d need to remove that center to put it in your bathroom and use it as a “portable toilet paper” to carry with you
You can buy something like this here in the US.
The roll is smaller, and they market it as being made for camping (takes up less space in the pack, etc). It also, of course, costs more because of this, since modern camping gear loves to price gouge.
If you’re going to pack TP though, just spool what you need around something smaller in diameter (like a skewer). Or if you know what you’re doing then just use leaves instead, those are free.
if you know what you’re doing then just use leaves
For those who may not know what they’re doing, I’ve crafted a handy guide:
Or just use one of these.
Without that last image for context, I would have assumed you stick the cork part into your butt and poop spaghetti out the other side.
What is this
Haunting thumbnail
With sumac water?
@Allero@lemmy.today - portable bidet. Clever design! Better than many I think:
Do want
Interesting, thanks!
The toilet paper I used in Taiwan was in the form of individual pieces folded up like American tissues for blowing your nose. I even accused my host of making me use tissues, but she showed me that they were actually marketed as toilet paper. Oh, and I couldn’t flush them. That was not embarrassing at all.
Dumpin’ in the trash can
Shitposting is being taken a little too literally lately
I dont think i saw any TP in VN. Everything was bidet and wash hands.
wasnt terrible. Cold showers constantly and no water pressure were by far more of a culture shock to me. It was more similar to when I would go and hike for weeks on end in college.
Skin pores close on cold water, making it less effective. Feels gross for me too (hypersensitivity), did that once for a while in a hot summer.
Hmm. I guess theoretically you could soap up with warmer water before getting in the cold shower. So the shower is mostly just rinse.
I was in the southern parts, you were hot and it was already warm. The shower was basically a way to cool off. I would take a couple a day, but they were always quick. and again, water pressure was like 5-10 psi on a good day.
We got an Airbnb in Hanoi at one point, and that had hot showers and good pressure and I took a very long one. Best I had felt in a while.
Yeah when they say 10 min max limit, they really mean it.
And even then you see people taking showers as fast as 5 minutes to save water stored in the tank.
Do they use rainwater collection tanks for showers or is it just a buffer tank on the roof to compensate for low pressure?
But what about all the kids crafts and hamster tubes?
It’s so hard to use toilet paper after getting a bidet.
I mean sure, I use TP to double check the bidet did it’s job and to dry. But wiping twice as opposed to dealing with a marker butthole has spoiled me.
Twice? Try a dozen.
I meant wiping twice as in I’d bidet, wipe once to dry, wipe twice to confirm clean, and then done. As opposed to marker butthole 😅
That’s a grease pen, not a marker.
Only reason you have a marker butthole is because you ain’t eating enough fiber motha fucka. Get some fiber powder and drink that shit bro wtf don’t spread misinformation like you spread your ass to shoot water up there to enema douche the bit of poop you left pinched off up your buttholy hole because you ain’t eating some God damn fiber my man!! EAT FIBER YO POO BE ONE BIG OL UNBREAKABLE LINK ITS WONDERFUL 👍
My butthole is a marker unless I get a whiff of fiber, at which point it turns into a firehose. The only time I get a decent poop is when my diet is mostly sugar, cheese, and meat.
That’s a true American asshole.
^ this user does not wash their asshole
Just yesterday I was reminiscing with my wife about how TP rolls used to have no tube when we were children and how hard it was to find the center to put them on the holder.
If I may ask, what country and how long ago was this? I have never really seen this before
This exists now in the US at Target. I liked them, actually.
Don’t go to Russia. Every once in a while you can encounter this atrocity. Yes, it has holes right out of the roll, no perforation whatsoever and not even a hole that you could hang it on and therefore outer layers are always dirty. And, of course, feels like a sandpaper, tears when wiping, but stretches when you actually try to get a piece. Please don’t tell me that this exists outside of Russia, that’d be way to much assrash for this world.
These exist and are widely used in rural Romania. Even public institutions like schools and town halls use these there. They’re not the worst you can get though. About 10-15 years ago you’d also stumble across houses that had no toilet paper, just newspapers. You were supposed to wipe with those. Not a fun experience!
My public school in Louisiana had very similar toilet paper. I’m not sure if its actually the same, but it certainly looks like it.
when you take brutalism so far that your toilet paper looks like concrete
Now with 20% more aggregate!
It’s exfoliating!
It’s just a little asbestos, don’t worry about it comrade!
Assbestos
Fireproof toilet paper, truly innovative.
That’s because soft toilet paper is too gay for Russia.
Fellas, is it gay to use tp that doesn’t hurt?
Its literally tissue paper, I think youre being pretty dramatic
looks like itd be more ecofriendly because its mot bleached, and its not shipping around with a heap of empty space for the (now i think about it) oversized cardboard tube
Don’t go to Russia.
There’s a very tall list of reasons to not go to Russia and their toilet papers isn’t very high on it.
I don’t know…
My list goes:
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Their toilet paper
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I might criticize Putin
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I might criticize the government
Well, I wouldn’t worry about 2 and 3 that much. It’s just that as a foreigner, especially if you are from the US, you will most definitely fall under the surveillance of FSB and the cops will look at you twice, but they’re not paid half-decent enough to actually give a shit and do their job properly. They might harass you here and there but if you don’t do anything stupid like protesting in red square or doing selfies in front of military bases, then they’ll have nothing against you. I imagine that’s not that much worse than living in the US under CIA’s umbrella and trigger happy cops. Other than that, it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK, Afghanistan or Syria that people make it sound like. In fact, you can get by in Moscow or St. Petersburg without a guide or translator just fine. I’d rather advise to watch out for the tourist traps(the usual), and to avoid getting out of the city limits and into the suburbs because of the much increased crime levels.
Ah, and put the fact that for every dollar you spend there, you put 20 cents straight into Putin’s pocket into that list…
And also that you’d probably need a visa and it’s a hassle…
And that you’d probably need a Russian friend to get you hooked up with the basics and avoid going through the bureaucracy - like with currency exchange, credit card, carrier plan, etc…
Also that weather is rather harsh there…
And also that it’s probably the dirtiest country on earth because city planners didn’t zone out lawns and parks properly therefore the mud gets spread absolutely everywhere…
And that internet is half-broken, with half sites censored while the others block everyone from Russian IP’s because sanctions…
And that Ukraine might not let you in afterwards…
And that you’d for sure be questioned by your homecountry’s intelligence services…
And that’s about all that I can think of.
it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK
North Korea is like ten times nicer than Russia, and definitely doesn’t belong on the same list as Taliban-controlled Afghanistan or still-a-warzone Syria, regardless of what you think of their government.
oh bless your heart, you sweet summer child
unquestioningly believe Western propaganda about a country you’ve never been too
it’s OTHER people who are naive
'kay bud.
Yes, and the Earth is flat because you never went to space to confirm it’s a globe. Stupid people don’t know they’re stupid, it’s only a problem for everyone around them. Get help.
girl, there are pictures of north koreans gathering GRASS because they don’t have food. And they will kill you or put you in a camp if you try to leave.
Been listening to Yeonmi Park, I see.
You know she’s not the only defector there is, right?
Does the FSB have the good toilet paper?
That would be helpful.
But I saw Mr Bald and Bankrupt do it several times! And he only went to jail twice!
And you’d likely be held prisoner as a trading chip for Russian murderers.
Well, it that case you’re referring to, the guy was actually snooping around which would fall into doing stupid things. But, just in case, just this once, here’s a free get out of jail free card: If you ever got caught just say that you’re an orthodox christian who came to Russia to enjoy based traditional culture in this bastion of anti-woke-ism and family values, and complain about some dumb shit like how western liberal agenda prevents you from hitting your wife or something. They can’t put you on TV while you are in prison, so they’ll have to let you go.
- Might accodentally fly my drone into a cracking vessel at an oil refinery. Whoops.
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I encountered this in Ukraine, often combined with those toilets in the floor and/or extremely rickety, extremely “well-loved” outhouses. Once, we stopped in what appeared to be a stranger’s yard and my hosts advised we were at the rest stop. I asked where the restroom was. They all started laughing. They are a hearty bunch.
The one that’s just like a concrete block with few holes in the floor? God that shit’s terrifying. Grew up in Russia and luckily never had to use one of those as they were never the only option. But if I had to, I’d rather shit my pants instead. Had to use shoddy garden toilets, squat toilets and toilets with no stalls before a few times each, all were awful experiences, but this thing, it combines all three for the ultimate discomfort.
You see these in Poland every now and then, just with an actual central hole. I remember seeing these in my school, we used to call it srajtaśma (“shit tape” is the best translation I can think of), and it was just as bad as you described it. It also had a very particular smell to it.
Funny how I could probably understand what you mean if you said it without translation. Sounds very simillar to срать тесьма, which is also shit tape, though it’s not a correct grammatically in Russian. To my knowledge, we don’t have a specific name for it, but if there were I’d say it’d either be студенческая/солдатсткая (student/soldier) paper because they’re so poor, or жоподёрка (the assripper)
So it’s just crepe streamer paper?
Very close to it, yeah, like a very thin and shitty one. Doesn’t stretch as much nor is as sturdy, but the texture is spot on.
