• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Remove your Microsoft installation, done.

    Yes but…

    But what? This is Microsoft, they fucked it up so many times that it’s either incompetence or sabotage, and knowing Microsoft, it’s probably both.

    This is the same company that invented millions to sabotage Linux through the legal system (hello sco), and the same company that in purpose left gaping security holes open as to not lose any money, causing China to hack the US government through said holes.

    Then we decide that just that money isn’t enough so we’ll spy on you at every step of the way, we will force feed you ads, and we’ll use you to train our shitty AI

    Frack Microsoft, frack any and all of their software.

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    9 months ago

    Doesn’t Windows break dual booting semi-regularly? I’ve always avoided it as I’ve had friends get burned by this in the past. I guess I just keep different OSes on different drives, but that obviously isn’t feasible for everyone.

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      I know that used to be the case. It’s why I stopped trying to use a dual-booting system and instead just installed windows in Virtualbox.

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      I have dualboot set-up on my MacBook and have no. But it is a long time ago, since I last started macOS and my Mac would not get new macOS updates anyway😂 that was the reason to install Linux in the first place 😝

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      9 months ago

      Microsoft breaks bootloader and nixes Linux partition

      Microsoft: “patch seems to be working as intended”

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    Is there any issue with having windows on one drive and Linux on the other and toggling in the bios at boot? Do I introduce any problems by keeping my rarely used windows installation on a separate disk like this?

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      I’m not sure, but clearly something happens on the background, as my Debian drive broke after I changed it back and forth for the Windows drive. Grub fell back to rescue mode. After following some instructions and trying to boot from grub command line, Debian wouldn’t boot after it recognized the mouse. That’s what I know. Even in different drives, something happens on the PC when you go back and forth with Windows and Linux.

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        I should have been more clear,

        Assuming dev/sda is Linux and dev/sdb is Windows, I have grub on sda and Windows bootloader on sdb. I use a hotkey at boot to tell the bios which drive to boot from.

        Theoretically windows thinks it’s the only OS unless it’s scoping out that second hard disk.

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          It updates Secure Boot in the BIOS, so you could completely remove Windows but the Secure Boot update would still be in the BIOS and affect the boot loader.

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      9 months ago

      If Microsoft didn’t have a decades-long record of pulling shit like this, they might get the benefit of the doubt.

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        9 months ago

        Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

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          I hate this phrase.

          A lot of the time, people (and especially monopolistic, tax-dodging, $3.2 trillion multinationals with a long history of anti-competitive behaviour) really are just cunts.

          Time and time again, we see big companies doing anything they can to destroy competition, mislead customers, etc.

          Never attribute to stupidity what can be adequately explained by malice.

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            stupidity is a once-off

            malice is a pattern

            and even if it’s not malicious, a pattern of stupid action needs to be stopped just as much as malicious action

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          Microsoft has been consistently “stupid” for a very long time about this one particular thing.

        • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

          Emphasis mine. Incompetence on Microsoft’s part is not an adequate explanation for this latest action matching a pattern of other actions designed to antagonize FOSS users.

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    I had the intention of reinstalling my windows because it was like from back when win10 was new and the winsxs folder was so big that a 100GB partition was not enough for just windows with all the 3rd party programs installed on another partition… but I noticed that all my games run on Linux so I ended up wiping the 100GB nvme windows partition and moving my dual boot Linux there. I’ve been without windows for a couple of months now and I haven’t really missed it.

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    Does having Linux and Windows on seperate drives mitigate this issue somewhat?
    Wanting to start dual booting and moving to windows. Wondering if that helps at all.
    Edit: I meant moving to Linux… >.>

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      I keep Linux and windows on separate disks, grub or windows boot manager don’t know about each other. I have the Linux disk as the primary boot, if I need to boot into windows i use the bios boot selection screen. It’s a bit of a pain at times(have to mash F12 to get the bios boot menu) bit it’s less of a headache than trying to fix grub

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        I took this approach as well but I let Grub add Windows as a boot option. No mashing keys at post and Windows doesn’t get to touch Grub or Debian.

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          I have considered adding windows to grub, but these days I hardly boot into windows so there is probably not much point.

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      Not on my experience. But separate machines would work, if Microsoft never releases a “Wi-Fi network security patch for compatibility with all machines”.

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        I’d only use windows for gaming really, wouldn’t running it in a VM be less optimal in that vase? In terms of performance of windows and playing fames within the VM.

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          Really depends on the virtualization technology, hardware, configuration and game. Not a gamer myself.

          Gaming on linux has come a long way in recent years though, in no small part thanks to Steam.

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    If you need to dual boot, be sure to use separate EFI partitions for windows and Linux, separate drives if possible. Windows has done this far too many times.