• raldone01@lemmy.world
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    I don’t understand why all these chrome derivatives and firefox don’t just band together and extend manifest v3 with some vendored standardised extension that addresses the limitations.

    Browsers do that for CSS and JavaScript features already. An extension could just check if the browser supports the “unlimited filters” option and use it if its available.

    I have never researched it but heard that the permissions of manifest v3 are much better for privacy.

    I am in favor of removing manifest v2 if the vendored extension becomes a reality.

    Browsers already have too much complexity, lines of code and feature creep.

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        From what I understand, the limit on the lists is not the only problem with it - my main concerns are a) lists only being able to update together with the extension itself and b) some features apparently being fundamentally disallowed, like the element picker I am dependent on.

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      6 months ago

      Just wait, there will be “features” that are mandatory on most sites, only supported in chrome.

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        I usually use a useragent switcher to bypass.

        But the teams website for example opens a Microsoft specific browser api so its annoyingly locked to Edge specifically on mobile.

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        6 months ago

        So download a user agent switcher and set it to show you as using chrome. This is what i do with firefox and i haven’t run across a site that thinks i’m using firefox.

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    6 months ago

    I feel like I have seen this news since forever, I am happily living my life with Firefox… Although the android mobile really needs some love.

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      Eh, Firefox on Android works pretty well for me (I actually use Mull). There are a handful of websites that have issues, but many of them also have issues on Vanadium (Chromium on GrapheneOS), so I just use my desktop for those.

      What issues are you running into?

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        What issues are you running into?

        Tab management is plain bad, and the UI doesn’t feel snappy as, let’s say, Cromite or Chrome.

        All those are paid off because of the extension ability in Firefox.

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          Really? Tab management seems largely equivalent to Chrome, and the UI feels totally fine to me. Are you on an older device perhaps? It’s a bit slow on my old phone (4 years old), but my new one (Pixel 8) is absolutely fine.

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            Nah, my device is not high end, but it ships with a SD 865, and 6 GB of RAM.

            Have you used Chrome recently? It is just a better experience with Android, except because of the ads and shitty Google’s hand lol.

            It feels so good to have your grouped tabs always accessible at the bottom and you can quickly switch just by tapping the little icon.

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              I’ve used Vanadium (GrapheneOS build of Chrome), which is fine. And I didn’t know about that tab grouping feature, that’s pretty nice! I tend to only have a few tabs open though, so I just swipe on the URL bar to jump between them, which works acceptably well.

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                Yeah, many of us hoard a lot of tabs, for the better for worse, but even after some simple web searches you can gather a lot of links quickly, so it is always handy to have a good tab management.

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      i like it, tbh I barely use the phone. I need more RAM on it for it to be more useful. It’s crazy that even 8GB is not good enough. Dam Samsung bloat. I wish I had a stylus option for Google pixel or something that can take a privacy respecting OS.

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        The Samsung bloat is real. I have two identical Galaxy Tabs, one with Lineage and one stock, and the software on the stock one is so annoying to go back to after using the Lineage one.

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      Oh man. Once Firefox on Android got extension support, I hopped on that train so hard. No ads on mobile browser? Heck yeah.

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        Well, if my memory serves well, Ublock Origin has been in Firefox mobile for a long time already but I get you.

        Although even before I did the switch I rarely saw ads on Google because I have always used DNS ad blocking (whether using my pi-hole or AdAway root version) but yeah Ublock Origin is just so much better.

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        It has extensions support for like 6 years at this point. Unless you got some extreme obscure extensions

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        One thing I would like is to selectively enable extensions in the “custom tab” modal for Firefox.

        When I open an article, and it’s riddled with js and auto play video, I have to hit “Open in Firefox” to get uBlock to engage.

        It would be nice to have the reader mode button in this view as well.

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          If it helps, you can dig into Androids settings and use Firefox for the default in-app browser for most apps. That’s what I did, anyway, and it’s been fantastic.

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      6 months ago

      Imagine having an OS that doesn’t come with a proper package manager (and Firefox installed by default, for that matter).

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      6 months ago

      Just like how Micro$oft Windows is advertsiting Linux, Google Chrome advertsites Firefox!

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      Sad saga, but here we are. I remember when Chrome was new and brought much needed speed and low resource usage to the browsing experience of the day. I even got email from a Chrome engineer once about a bug I mentioned in a forum, asking me for more information.

      Google was already an ad company by then so anyone could have looked forward to this inevitability. Some did. Most of us did not.

      Chrome has just always been there for some younger people but it will now live in my memory as a fully encapsulated end-to-end enshittification experience that I really should have always expected.

      And just like it used to be with Internet Explorer, I am forced to use Chrome at work all day because thats the IT & security approved / enterprise-managed browser.

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        I, too, switched to Chrome around when they launched due to drastically better performance. But shortly after (a couple years?), I found out Opera had similar performance and had cool other features, so I switched to that. Opera then converted to a Chrome-clone, so I switched to Firefox, which had largely caught up w/ performance by that time.

        If you have the option, request that Firefox be added to the supported app list or whatever by your IT team. Tell them you need some Firefox-specific extensions or something for your job.

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    I recently started using Brave Browser and I noticed YouTube ads were starting to seep through randomly. Seems alright no far.

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    Once this starts affecting me is lonely what will push me to other Crowder’s I’ve never felt the need to leave chrome. I have a lot of Google related services and products so it would be hypocritical of me to draw an arbitrary line at browsers but not the rest, because personally i don’t care about tracking and whatnot cause it’s mostly just to serve targeted ads and I don’t see them for the most part so I don’t care, gimme all your cookies. But if I stay seeing ads again more prominently and there’s no workaround, then I’m out. Moving on.

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      And you think US government and 5 eyes countries won’t have access? What happens when that elaborate detailed profile data of yours gets hacked?

      You are free to choose at any point where you draw the line.

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    We got here by using their softslop… only way to kill them is not move on to different merchants.

    Gaming 101

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    I frequently forget that chrome is installed on my phone. The only time I’m forced to use it is about once a year when I order Papa John’s Pizza takeout. Their checkout page doesn’t seem to work in any other browser.

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    Welcome all you shiny new Firefox users. Get a cup of a hot beverage and enjoy your freedom.

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    It’d be great if Cloudflare sites supported Firefox. No matter what I do, it always gives me the “prove you’re a human” checkbox loop.

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      Interesting. I use Firefox on everything at home, usually windows or android, and I rarely get those. Could it be one of your extensions? Proxy?

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        You likely have a “better” IP address than OP. I have old DSL and new LTE, on the LTE I get captchas all the time, on DSL my experience was the same AS yours.

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        No proxy. I’ve tried disabling the likely extensions with no change. It’s not the builtin anti-tracking stuff, either.

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    I have always used Firefox on all my devices, except for one: the Chromebook I was forced to buy because of compatibility with my college’s test proctoring spyware.

    On that device, not only did uBlock Origin quit working the other day, but today Chrome even kept disabling uBlock Lite with the error message that “This extension reloaded itself too frequently”. It could be some kind of legitimate bug, but it sure feels a lot like foul play on Google’s part.