I should’ve used it sooner rather than last year when they announced AI integration to Windows. Every peripheral I tried is just worked without needing to install drivers, and it works better and faster than on Windows, just like today when I tried to use my brother’s 3D printer expecting disappointment, but no, it just connected and was ready to print right away (I use Ultimaker Cura), whereas on my brother’s Windows computer I have to wait like 20 seconds; sometimes I have to disconnect and reconnect it again for it to see and ready to use. Lastly, for those who are wondering, I use Vanilla Arch (btw), and sorry for bad English.
Most of my library just works under Linux.
Plus it is a pleasure to code under Linux.
I use Vanilla Arch (btw), and sorry for bad English.
Sure buddy… Is the “bad English” in this thread with us right now?
Is the “bad English” in this thread
It’s in every thread right now.
I laughed when I saw this. Like, it was a guy excited that his computer is working better, including with his printer. Maybe a teensy bit of punctuation I’d do differently, but whatever. It’s the Internet. Then suddenly “oh yeah sorry English isn’t my first language and I’m sure you can all see that”
Yeah, I assumed they just had a typo or two like we all do from tiem to time.
Your English is great, OP
I’ve been using it on and off since 1994. I still have a slackware dist on CD with the 1.1 kernel. I think Linux is great although I still prefer to use Windows, and Linux via WSL which is my optimal set up these days.
You went straight from windows to vanilla arch ?
Quite impressive
Haha thanks but it’s not actually my first distro, I’m distro hopping on my first week of switching to Linux, my first ever distro is EndeavourOS>Nobara>Fedora>OpenSUSE>Vanilla Arch
That’s a lot of different distros in one week. How do you give each one enough time to evaluate it before you choose to move to another?
At the time my main goal is to have to all of my games working, while I can make it run on every distro I tried, I found Vanilla Arch is the better one in terms of performance and ease of use (yeah call me weird for saying Arch is easier to use than other distros XD), so I keep using it ever since.
Vanilla Arch is the better one in terms of performance and ease of use (yeah call me weird for saying Arch is easier to use than other distros XD)
Not weird at all, I use Arch on my main system exactly because I’m lazy and it’s easier to use. It’s harder to install, but a lot easier to use.
That’s a good distrohop pipeline
I remember the USAF handing me an M16 at 18 years old where all I’ve ever handled before that was even close was the NES zapper.
tbh vanilla arch is not that tough now that archinstall exists, and archwiki is an incredible resource
Vanilla arch is nothing like the manually installed arch of old. It’s as easy to install and use as any other distro. I started with arch too, and my now permanent distro is arch based
Lucky. I couldn’t get HDR working properly, and most of my GPU features were missing because Nvidia refuses to support Linux (and AMD GPUs can’t keep up). So I had to go back to Windows.
Been trying to switch to Linux since 2004. I’ll try again in 5 years.
Try Nobara or Bazzite. Plasma supports HDR fairly well, and those distros includes a pile of tweaks for Nvidia devices. It might get you sorted.
Tweaks and preconfigured distros aren’t solution here. The driver is still lacking certain features and that can only be fixed by NVIDIA
Nvidia has an open driver now I believe? I install
nvidia-open.Curious to know what you mean by:
AMD GPUs can’t keep up
And,
I had to go back to Windows
you had to, because of HDR? I have an Nvidia RTX 2080 Super, and I don’t know of any features that are missing. Games can do DLSS and ray tracing and whatever else they need. For me, support seems to be absolutely beast on Linux. 🤷♂️
Does that driver support SDR to HDR conversation, AI upacaling, and most importantly: the 3D Settings page? I can live without the first two features, but I can’t believe that there is no 3D Settings page in Linux. It has so many graphics settings that aren’t available in most games.
And yes, AMD GPUs can’t keep up. Especially if you like Ray Tracing. I’m not an AMD hater; I have a 7700X
Does that driver support SDR to HDR conversation, AI upacaling,
Assuming you mean conversion and upscaling. DLSS is AI upscaling, right? I don’t think X11 has much support for HDR. But I’m not well versed in display servers at all to make that claim firmly.
and most importantly: the 3D Settings page? I can live without the first two features, but I can’t believe that there is no 3D Settings page in Linux. It has so many graphics settings that aren’t available in most games.
Ah, you mean that custom program where you set a bunch of settings externally and specifically for each game? I think the program
nvidia-settingshas that? Try it out!And yes, AMD GPUs can’t keep up. Especially if you like Ray Tracing. I’m not an AMD hater; I have a 7700X
Ah that’s a shame. Newer AMD cards are surely better than my old 2080 Super though eh. 🙃
DLSS is AI upscaling, right?
No, not DLSS. RTX Video Enhancement. Makes YouTube look so much better.
I think the program
nvidia-settingshas that? Try it out!It does not. I’m talking about this page. Almost every game in existence is missing several settings that are on this page, especially GPU Power Management Mode, Negative LOD Bias, Max Framerate in the Background, and Max VR Prerendered Frames.
Linux is awesome
& so are you ^🥁 1, 2, 3, 4… 🎸^
Aww, thank you
I wish I could experience this pain free Linux I keep hearing about on this website. Programs constantly stutter and glitch out, and if the computer goes to sleep while running my Linux partition it absolutely will not wake up again. I know this is a skill issue, but I’ve already spent many hours troubleshooting this… I’ve tried several distros as well. Even the steam compatibility everyone raves about only seems to work for me if I don’t use wayland. I can say with certainty that the average person would be completely unwilling to deal with the experience I have had.
Which distros have you tried? My experience was rough at first when I finally cut Windows out of my life a year ago. I’m on a ASRock B450M with a Ryzen 3600 and a 2070 Super. Started with Ubuntu > Mint > Debian > and finally settled on Pop_OS, and things have been rock solid. Most recently installed Cosmic desktop on another drive and even the 5th Alpha is playing Steam and Heroic games with few issues.
I’m guessing you’re on Nvidia system?, I never had a program glitching or crashing on me ever since I make the switch (I exclusively use Wayland and never touch X11 once), maybe a laptop specific issue just like I can’t get my fingerprint sensor to work on my machine, but luckily it’s not a deal breaker for me
Correct. But I’ve heard tons of people say Nvidia support is fine now, and that amd is still problematic. I have also tried Pop OS
Use local LLM model, it will turbo charge your learning curve.
Tells you commands and will explain the errors. This is prime LLM domains IMHO since everytbing Linux is well documented online.
I have tried with many models online, presumably all of which are more robust than local. Will give it another shot soon
They deff. Local ain’t gonna be better. Did you not like the results from llms?
I think this “it just works” experience depends much on the hardware and software you use. But no matter what, in the long term, if you’re not willing to put in time and learn how stuff works, how to troubleshoot, how to check logs, use the terminal, etc. I think you’re going to have a bad time and be disappointed.
I’ve used Linux exclusively for the past 10 years, both at home and at work, and I wouldn’t advise anyone who wants a care-free “it just works” experience. Linux is not good at that, and I think anyone who claims it is does more harm than good.
Linux is good for tinkering, self-hosting stuff, connectivity and flexibility. Most people want their games to work, not this. For me, I love it and I use it for everything including sim racing and VR games.
I am more willing to learn things than the average user I’d say - I work in IT and answer incredibly stupid questions more or less daily. Also, im not a shell expert, but I definitely know my way around bash/zsh/cmd/PS, given the system. I have also been using Linux on and off for around 15 years as well - I had things work well in the past.
I’m guessing my custom built PC might be making things harder. The Nvidia card probably doesn’t help, but I feel like my MOBO is probably responsible for my sleep issues. Maybe I just need to try Pop again, I’m currently running NixOS which is my favourite OS in theory, but in practice configuration is a brute force guessing game.
I haven’t had as bad of an experience with Nvidia as people say - but ofc your mileage may vary depending on your compositor, the apps you use, the distro you use, etc.
I also experienced issues with my system completely freezing after waking up from sleep - for me the issue turned out to be due to bluetooth/wifi drivers, and with this workaround things work fine again: https://github.com/alimert-t/suspend-freeze-fix-for-mt7921e/tree/main
My card is mt7922 (found that out withlshw -C network) but I guess it’s having the same issue, because after applying that fix it all works now.It was really annoying and it took me a while to find the issue, because if you just try to google it you find lots of people with lots of different issues, all manifesting in the same way.
If you’re lucky this is your issue too, and the fix above should do it. 🤞Thanks for inspiring me to search around GitHub - I managed to successfully resume from suspend after an hour or so (still doesn’t work in Wayland, but I’m making progress i guess).
Next up is addressing the weird horizontal tearing in all my games!
I have a few computers, and some (like my old thinkpads) work very reliably, while my modern desktop has some issues sometimes (e.g. i literally cannot get waking from sleep working, at all)
Can anybody comment on their experience using Arduino and ESP with Linux? Especially does Linux handle COM ports better than Windows? There’s a seemingly immortal problem of COM ports becoming unusable until you go into Device Manager and uninstall them (again and again) - and if that doesn’t work, reboot Windows. I experience this less often now than say 5 or 6 years ago, and sometimes it’s my fault, but jeez.
I regularily program Arduinos in Arduino IDE v2 (https://flathub.org/apps/cc.arduino.IDE2) and ESPs via the ESPHome web flasher and the esphome CLI tool.
Works flawlessly once you added yourself to the dialout group as mentioned by @StorageB@lemmy.one.
You might have issues with permissions for serial ports on some distros, but there are loads of easy to follow guides for that. Linux definitely handles them better than windows though. I never had issues where they just stop working like on Windows.
COM ports as handled by Windows is misery anyways. Linux definitely does it better
Yes, com ports work way better than in windows. I’ve done a lot of embedded development on linux and it’s way more pleasant than in windows. One thing you do have to keep in mind is that access to com ports (USB and real) requires root access by default, but once you’ve set the udev rule up, it becomes accesible to normal users and/or group of users. After that, it works flawlessly. Android dev also works great and imo better than on win. Proprietary jtags may be an issue, but I’ve never actually had an unsolvable situation.
Thank you, that’s massively helpful! Pasting your comment into my ESP32 project notes so when I soon move to Linux I can remember to figure out the udev rule and jtags.
I’ve had wemos d1 boards from AliExpress show up as a brltty and the braille teletype driver grabs the device. Just something to look out for on some distros
That’s a bizarre glitch I never would have known to look for - thanks!
Yeah I’d rather deal with this than a blind persons gear not work
Running this command was the only thing required for me to get access to the com ports. After that, everything worked perfectly.
sudo usermod -a -G dialout $USER(note that $USER is part of the command - do not replace that with your actual username)
update: after a month of Mint I’ve had no problems at all uploading code to ESP32, and it seems about 50% faster than on Windows. Uploads just work - it’s like a breath of fresh air.
Same, programmed an arduino last week, that was all I had to do too
Pasting this right into my project doc. Thanks so much!
And if something doesn’t work, it’s all your fault somehow. Which is both a blessing and a curse.
That’s fine, I can look up the Arch Wiki for solutions, which is also a learning process for me and if it still doesn’t work, I can just duct tape the workaround myself XD
Tip from long-time arch user (btw). Avoid installing or making changes to system installation without going through pacman. I.e., don’t use install scripts or make install invocations requiring sudo. More often than not that will cause headaches long-term. PKGBUILDs are actually reasonably simple to create if you need to install something not in the AUR, and it will keep you from overwriting files and leaving files behind after uninstalling.
I make a promise to myself that I never install anything outside of the AUR, luckily everything I ever need already available there
How do you have Cura installed?
You can get it on their official website
So you just used the AppImage. I seem to recall having issues with it, but that’s been awhile. I’ll have to give it another try. Are you using Wayland?
Yes I use the appimage package, I don’t have any issue with it on Wayland, or you can get it on the AUR, you might need to follow this procedure and wait a minute for Cura to detect the USB
I recently made the switch to linux as well and I have it on my laptop and gaming PC. I do keep a portable install of windows on an external drive for more niche cases, such as music production which I had terrible luck with on Linux. When I booted up my laptop with the windows drive, I noticed that my keyboard backlight wasn’t working. And it took me a second to realize that Windows doesn’t come with basic drivers… In Linux mint, my keyboard backlight worked right away. I also wish I made the jump to Linux much earlier.
For music prod on Linux, have you tried Reaper?
Yes. I’ve made posts about my problems before. But I use an E drum kit to trigger vsts in a daw. It’s just easier for me to use windows.
Welcome to the brotherhood.
Yeah. I’ve been trying to get the word out.
I’ve been screwing with Linux for decades, but somewhere along the line, Linux got easier and more reliable than Windows. I was as surprised as anyone. My last couple Linux installs were a cake walk.
I also like Linux more than Mac, but I’m a tinkerer at heart, and Mac’s (relative) lack of fiddly bits (customization options) has kept me from staying on it long.
Same here.
Daily driver is a mac but I always use a desktop Linux machine at home.
I’ve been using Linux for almost 9 years now. Shit is never so smooth for me but I still love it.
The only device it has been smooth on has been my Thinkpad T530. Every other install I have has some annoying issue, usually small
Not surprising considering how well Linux support on Thinkpad laptop are.
I’ve had good luck with several Lenovo laptops. ThinkPads and IdeaPads. Everything but the fingerprint readers just works.
Everything but the fingerprint readers just works.
Good to know the struggle for the fingerprint reader wasn’t just me. I did “get it working” but it was extremely hacky and it wasn’t what I was after; I only wanted fingerprint for login, not additionally for sudo, but that’s not how it set up and I didn’t want to spend even more countless hours trying to fix that
Yep as an IdeaPad user, I can confirm that this is very true
xx30 ones are the best :)
My personal experience has been frustrating each time. I’ve tried to switch over at least 3 times over the years, but I always gave up. This time, I installed Ubuntu and immediately had to spend 3 hours trying to get my Xbox controler dongle to work, but just couldn’t do it. Found a driver online that people said would work, it didn’t because it wasn’t properly signed, tried to sign it but the signing app just didn’t create the certificates needed. Gave up, I have Bluetooth so I’d live, though I’d rather use the dongle if I can.
I then immediately encounter another problem that couldn’t be fixed (for the life of me I can’t remember what it was exactly) and just gave up.
The previous time I tried it I remember that among other things, one of my main problems was the lack of clipboard history (which I use extremely often). I tried installing an app for it but all of them either didn’t work or didn’t work the way I want them to or I just didn’t like their look and feel.
I also hate the font rendering on Linux, it always looks blurry compared to Windows, and the double titlebars most apps have (e.g. Discord, at least on Ubuntu), I like my screen real-estate.
