People like that voided their social contract tolerance the moment they broke it.
This. The only people who deserve the protections of a social contract are the parties who agree to it and are bound by it. Tolerance, safety, property, freedom; these are all social contracts that are under attack right now and those who would violate them of others do not deserve protection under them from the rest of us.
Trying to say someone on the left calling out or censuring a Nazi is like saying that someone can’t sue you because they signed an indemnity contract with your neighbor.
I hate people who say shit like “if you’re glad a nazi died, you’re as bad as they are”. Even something phrased in a more inflammatory manner, like “all Nazis must die” still wouldn’t make me anything like them. The crux of the matter is that people like me, who the Nazis would prefer to be dead, will always be a target for their bigotry; I will always be a queer cripple. Whereas a Nazi can grow the hell up, recognise our shared humanity and stop being a bloody Nazi. Depending on how much harm they caused as a Nazi, it might take a fair bit of work to redeem themselves in the eyes of their community (and some people may never feel okay associating with them), but ultimately it’s their choice — they’re actively opting out of the social contract and they’re welcome at any point to opt back in (if they’re willing to do the work that involves)
Ex-christian here. Jesus wasn’t a doormat and didn’t advocate for others to be doormats. Just because the powerful in society have cultivated their way of reading the new testament doesn’t mean you have to agree with their interpretation. Again and again and again, Jesus speaks out against wealth and power, and got crucified after he pissed off the money changers. Ofc, Jesus isn’t actually followed by Christians outside of the crucifixion bit; who they really follow is Paul, who was actually pretty cool with wealth, power, and the status quo.
In case you’re wondering, my disagreements with the Christian community at large are a big part (but not the only part) of why I’m no longer a Christian. The guy I read about and the guy they seem to be thinking of are two different people. The guy I read about would be chasing the republicans with whips.
Even Jesus had his heated moments. Going by the stories, didn’t Jesus fly into a rage and literally flip tables just because he didn’t like seeing people making money in a temple?
Yeah, that’s the money changers. He showed up and saw people doing financial trades in THE temple. It’d be like seeing a western union in the Vatican, though it may have been more extreme. Jesus made a whip by hand, busted in, and started flipping tables and chasing folks with the whip. It seems to be no coincidence that he was crucified pretty shortly after that particular stunt. Everyone in power was happy to roll their eyes and scoff until he touched the money.
It wasn’t just people making money, it was that the money changers and the temple were working together to fleece the devout who were coming from far away to show their faith.
It’s not like if somebody had a for-profit Cafe inside a church, it’s more like the televangelist that use other peoples’ devotion to get rich, saying you have to pay more and more to get into heaven.
it’s more like the televangelist that use other peoples’ devotion to get rich
Hey don’t drag Kenneth copeland’s good name. He needs a brand new jet so he can spread the word of God without associating with the demons in commercial flights.
That man looks like a demon wearing a human suit.
And it’s not a very good human suit.
Right? This is a proper human suit.
Yes.
Ex-catholic. Fuck Paul and his stupid, Roman ass shit. Ruined the whole thing, honestly.
Fuck Paul. Amen. Guy had some issues.
The guy I read about and the guy they seem to be thinking of are two different people.
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ - Mohandas Gandhi
Jesus would beat modern Christians to death with his bare hands. I guess that’s why he’s supposed to be wrathful when he returns.
Eh people overblow what Jesus did to the moneychangers and merchants in the temple. Yeah he made a whip and used it to drive the animals out, and he flipped over the tables scattering the money everywhere. But he never tried to to hurt people, just get them out of the temple and disrupt all the commerce going on.
Jesus Christ Superstar’s temple scene is probably the most accurate recreation of that passage as written in the Bible. He trashed all the stuff, flipped tables and sent everyone else away. He wouldn’t have beaten people to death, that’s not the message he preached or the actions he took.
my disagreements with the Christian community at large are a big part (but not the only part) of why I’m no longer a Christian. The guy I read about and the guy they seem to be thinking of are two different people.
Same. I still remember the day that I basically paraphrased a Jesus quote in a discussion of current events with my family, and someone asked me if I was some kind of communist and multiple others piled on with no one coming to my defense.
Apparently, actually believing the shit they taught me makes me some kind of radical…
Jesus was a communist and any Christian who believes the teachings of Jesus is a communist too.
Yeah, but they said it like it was an insult.
Well that’s because they hate Jesus.
Why the fuck are people still talking about Jesus?
Because he’s one of the biggest, most well-known figures on the planet regardless of whether or not you believe in him?
Why are people still talking about Santa?
J’ai repris deux fois des frites ce soir, bye bye Jean-Marie, tu ne nous manqueras pas.
Bye Jean-Marie, you will not be missed
today!
Compassion is the default, but malicious actions can revoke it.
Yeah. Sometimes the compassionate thing is to call out shitheads so the people they shit on don’t have to feel so alone.
