The best argument that I believe still has merit is this:
All websites on the internet—including ad networks!—are guests on our computers, and the content they provide are merely suggestions for a user agent to interpret and show us how it chooses.
If you agree with this—and I kinda do—then yeah, PPA shouldn’t exist. You’re probably a staunch user of uBlock (or uMatrix) and don’t want your browser engaging in any privacy-preserving attribution shenanigans.
But here’s the kicker: if you use uBlock, PPA won’t do anything. It can’t, even when left enabled. The only people really affected by PPA are people not using adblocking, i.e. the people being tracked all over the web, who would likely be helped by PPA.
As I said in a previous comment: if PPA works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing it on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.
And for all that Mozilla is implementing “bullshit,” they’re also the only ones keeping uBlock functional by maintaining manifest V2. They spend time and resources protecting the very thing that trumps their supposed bullshit. That doesn’t feel like enshittification to me, but a group trying to do its best, even while stuck between a rock and a hard place.
There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.
Wow, can’t wait to not only have my data harvested by Apple but also Google!
FFS, stop cumming for Chrome and start using Firefox!
As bad as google is, at least Chrome’s rendering engine is miles ahead of Safari’s.
It’s really not, Safari does a pretty good job keeping up with standards and whatnot.
Wasn’t Firefox starting to implement some bullshit too?
Always has been.
What do you believe Mozilla was implementing?
privacy preserving attribution
Thanks. I know you’re not OP, but I’ll take this opportunity to answer anyway.
…is not as bad as many people think.
The best argument that I believe still has merit is this:
If you agree with this—and I kinda do—then yeah, PPA shouldn’t exist. You’re probably a staunch user of uBlock (or uMatrix) and don’t want your browser engaging in any privacy-preserving attribution shenanigans.
But here’s the kicker: if you use uBlock, PPA won’t do anything. It can’t, even when left enabled. The only people really affected by PPA are people not using adblocking, i.e. the people being tracked all over the web, who would likely be helped by PPA.
As I said in a previous comment: if PPA works and is widely adopted, I can see the argument for how it’d be better—unfortunately, most people still browse the internet without uBlock. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop installing it on every device I can; I’m simply accepting that’ll never be every device on earth.
And for all that Mozilla is implementing “bullshit,” they’re also the only ones keeping uBlock functional by maintaining manifest V2. They spend time and resources protecting the very thing that trumps their supposed bullshit. That doesn’t feel like enshittification to me, but a group trying to do its best, even while stuck between a rock and a hard place.
By the time the masses move it will be an enshittified fork of chrome.
Edge?
Opera?
There’s no Firefox engine for iOS and Mozilla says it doesn’t make financial sense to port it.
What exactly is there to port anyway?
Gecko, the browser engine?
GeckoView more specifically in this case. But yes.
The rendering engine.
Currently Firefox on iOS is “just” a skin around the iOS provided renderer.
I don’t give a mousefuck about the rendering engine. I want extensions
Sounds like you do care about the rendering engine as that would basically give you a true mobile Firefox experience and access to all the extensions.
Did they say that? Cause it looks like there is at least some work being done on this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872
There’s been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it’s a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.