"There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those."
  • I3lackshirts94@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    “There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those…”

    Well have you thought about not being a piece of shit 😂

    • acosmichippo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      well that is what he’s saying. what he should try is thinking about why the things he says are so “value-destroying”.

    • copd@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      ZuckFuck doesn’t make his net worth each year. So let’s compare it against US citizen net worth. I have stats from 2022

      Average American new worth is ~$1,050,000 Median American net worth is ~$192,000

      I hate zuck as much as you but it’s important to be accurate and fair as possible when comparing statistics.

      So it’s like a fine of $19 if using median and $105 if using average. Still peanuts for a fine

      Source: https://dqydj.com/net-worth-percentiles/

  • secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    I hate Facebook and that they will ban people, without notice, unless they record a video selfie from multiple angles, and then still sometimes permanently ban people even then, without a way to pay to prove the person is real or talk to someone or even get a reason for the ban. I also think Facebook is an arm of the government and is not really a company (quasi-governmental) and is basically a corporate rebranding of LifeLog and Zuckerberg probably got a 1600 on his SATs and was recruited to join the government while in high school.

    So that all being said, despite my hatred of Facebook, what he is saying isn’t that illogical.

    Let’s say Zuckerberg personally supports trans rights and thinks Trump is an idiot. He can’t say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be “value-destroying.” Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don’t hate trans people because they understand science and how prenatal hormone conditions and epigenetic conditions means that sometimes internal senses of gender don’t match biological at birth sex. (Musk is the rare exception to this and it seems like his reaction comes from ego and anger about being estranged from his daughter and autism/lack of empathy, and so he’s a weird data point that doesn’t neatly fit if we take his reaction at face value.)

    So let’s say Zuckerberg wants to say “We support trans and gay people, we have to do this so Trump doesn’t go after us to remain profitable and not end up needing to decrease our head count, I hate Trump.” If he said that, someone would immediately leak it, Trump would go Ape Shit, and the company would lose value.

    It’s hard to know for certain if this is what he’s talking about, but if he is, this isn’t really something to fault him on.

    Facebook labeling linux as somehow evil, on the other hand, is a bizarre and shitty thing to do, so fuck Facebook and fuck this asshole who is letting linux be labeled as a cybersecurity threat. I also think Facebook doing this is because government, which has backdoor is Microsoft and Apple, doesn’t like linux and sees it growing in popularity and so I believe the government requested Facebook do this. I can’t fathom a social media company would do this for no reason on their own, it makes no sense, but if Facebook is Lifelog and always has been Lifelog and Zuckerberg gets his orders from someone else, then it would make sense that they implement policies regarding labeling linux as bad to try to keep their backdoors in as many user’s OSes as possible.

    • meeeeetch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      He can’t say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be “value-destroying.”

      What’s the point of having “Fuck You Money” if you don’t say “Fuck you” when it matters?

      • Kitathalla@lemy.lolEnglish
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        4 months ago

        It’s all about who you can say it to. As much as elmo is probably trying to change it, right now the dystopian future of shadowrun hasn’t appeared, and the various governments are still the big dogs in the pound. See brazil for a recent example. Even apple, famously trying to thwart regulations, has eventually caved to the EU on the charger issue, as another example.

    • Kelsier@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      (not exactly a reply to you but a general reaction to all the news related to tech giants and Trump since the inauguration)

      My take on the Linux “ban” is that it probably was intended to be a soft shadow ban (but something went wrong) on free software and open source alternatives. These companies are at the top, they now have the money and the government, there is only one thing that can bring them down: the people. It’s as simple as just deactivating or deleting your facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Google accounts (talking to those with an account). There was life before them, there was internet before them and there are alternatives (we are using one right now). Yes, there are a lot of benefits to using these platforms but what’s gonna be? Continue to fuel these companies by complaining about them and their CEOs and Trump, on their platforms, or leave and stop being part of the problem?

    • Enkrod@feddit.orgEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don’t hate trans people

      Eh… intelligence is helpful, but in the end does not inoculate one against BS opinions. Musk is (supposedly) intelligent and toxic as hell, Richard Dawkins is (definitely) intelligent and a fucking TERF. Fuck, Jordan Peterson (for all his faults) is a demonstrative intelligent man… he’s just also an asshole and wrong about a multitude of things.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        4 months ago

        I’ll do a reverse reductio ad Hitlerum and say that a lot of people who had substantial enough communication with Hitler considered him very intelligent. Just, well, unhinged, with an itch he couldn’t scratch, with murderous overvalued ideas … But misjudgements usually used to justify calling him a corporal limited in perception are big because a man shouldn’t have such power, not because the particular man who had was dumber than the rest.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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      4 months ago

      ☑️ I don’t disagree to not disable the disability of Facebook to not share my conversations with 4721 untrusted data unpartners"