My sister once told my mom that empathy is what’s ruining this country. It’s not even like it was a misinterpretation/misunderstanding, that’s almost word for word how she said it. I can’t fathom how someone comes to that line of thinking.
I can tell you pretty easily but that won’t stop you from pretending to be surprised for internet points next time
Conservative empathy is reserved only for close associations, it is a crisis management mode that modern doomteller media actively stokes with imaginary threats of immigrants and trans people so it is ALWAYS on
In times of crisis, humanity’s generosity contracts as we have to do the cold calculations over limited resources and the fact that we do NOT value every person equally.
Example: If I only had enough food for me and one other person, I would not give that food to a bigot because that food is better served in the belly of a progressive
It’s just that they are triggered into this mode at all times and their circle of empathy is basically only family and friends, but deep down it is always only just them if times get hard enough
You saw the same behavior in times of famine all across the world
Elon Musk is how.
This happened a while before he came out as a right wing nut job and was embraced by conservatives
He literally said this two weeks ago. " The death of the West is due to too much empathy." Paraphrased, of course.
Yeah but what does that have to do with the other posters sister saying it a while back?
No thinking was involved. She was repeating something she heard on fascist media.
To me it feels like social darwinism mentality - the belief that helping the weak survive weakens the herd. AKA “hard choices”.
The problem is that’s actually the opposite of how that works. If you refuse to care for the weak in your community, you foster this atmosphere of sociopathy and mistrust that causes the group to destroy itself.
Why the hell do you think there are only two Sith in Star Wars?
I can not understand how people can be social darwinist and still support inheritance, even tax free inheritance. If you want just the fittest to survive, everyone needs to start the same. Same education, same situation at home, same connections of the parents. Social darwinist should support that all children are taken from their parents and be brought up in the same orphanages and are given exactly the same tools.
That said, I can not understand social darwinists at all. Whoever is dumb enough to support this idea is hurting the herd and according to social darwinists…
“The rich are passing down superior wealth just as they pass down superior genes.”
It’s all a crock of shit, but I’ve met people who believe it.
When I confronted my very Repub dad about the discrepancy between inheritance being okay and giving poor people things for free was bad for them because bootstraps etc, his reaction was “It’s their money, they can give it to whoever they want.”
But I don’t see why social darwinists would support raising children under identical conditions. A level playing field isn’t part of their creed. They just don’t believe in hampering the superior to take care of the inferior. My dad left me and my sister ample inheritances, and if anything I think he would see that as a sentimental flaw he was entitled to. But if he thought we were the type to blow the money on blackjack and hookers he probably would have donated it to Republicans, thinking that in the long run it was best for us…
Pizzacake comics might be a torture psyop.
appreciate the message, but God can we please not share pizza cake comics on Lemmy, none of them were funny on Reddit and they’re not funny here.
Look, on many things, we probably agree. Maybe even more important things.
And I don’t even love this comic, its just, fine, its whatever.
That said I upvoted this comic to spite you and your comment here, because I don’t like your sentiment that people can’t like and share things that they like because your hipster instinct kicked in.
To be fair this is on comic strips not funny - there is no commitment to this being funny.
Humor is fairly subjective. You don’t want content because you don’t like it? That’s fundamentally against the concept of what Lemmy represents. This isn’t a website to cater to your whims.
Cowards fear empathy and maim their own capacity for it, because experiencing the pain of others hurts. Being surrounded by extreme, intolerable pain is the most difficult part of being vegan.
Cmiiw but isn’t the irony in the right also deeming Trump too dumb to be a threat to democracy? The thought of an articulate Trump that doesn’t make these sloppy mistakes paired with a steroids version of the dizzying policy reform this admin shells out…. 🏳️
So no empathy for Elon Musk and his crybaby butthurt feelings? Fine by me!
Being a real christian is about to become cool, I guess?
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
**But if God intended that the Negro race should be Segregated in Africa then why did He curse the children of Ham and decree that they should be the servants, or slaves, ot the other races?’’
God did not. Canaan was the only one specifically cursed to be a ‘‘servant of servants’’ (Genesis 9:20-27). Even if we admit the possibility that all his descendants were included in the curse (the best Bible scholars disagree on this point). we must still remember that Canaan was only one of the four sons of Ham and therefore he fathered only a MINORITY of the black race. And as I said before, even that servile minority were to live in a different part of the country from the Hebrews (Genesis 10:19).
It cannot be positively proven from the Scriptures that the Negroes were cursed to be black because of Nimrod’s rebellion or because of Ham’s sexual laxity at the time of his father Noah’s drunkenness. But there are some verses that seem to leave that implication. For example in Jeremiah 13:23 we read, ‘*Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.’’ Here the black Skin of the Negro is obviously a symbol of evil. This verse also shows that God meant for that skin to STAY BLACK and not be blended into a Thousand shades of mulatto.
The notion that the Negroes of this country have INHERITED the “‘deep Sunburn’’ that their forefathers are said to have suffered in Africa is ridiculous. Sunburns are not inherited, no matter how deeply they penetrate, not even by the first generation, not to mention the tenth or twelfth generation.
If we are to reject the curse of Ham and the rebellious leadership of Nimrod as explanations of why God made the‘Negro black then there is only one other possible explanation to be found anywhere in the Bible or out of it: THE GOOD LORD WAS SO ANXIOUS FOR THE HAMITES TO BE SEPARATED AND SEG- REGATED PEOPLE THAT HE MADE THEM RADICALLY DIFFERENT IN THEIR APPEARANCE FROM THE PEOPLE OF ALL OTHER RACES. He made their skin color different for for the same reason that He made their language different and for the same reason that He assigned them a different habitation… At least we would be much kinder and more charitable to our colored friends if we gave that explanation.
The southern Bible doesn’t read like yours and mine does, they made some notes in the margins.
interesting read, thanks!
Republicans would be very upset with you using the bible against them, if they had ever read the bible to know what it said.
The usual response is “you only know a few cherry picked quotes, and would burst into flames if you actually read the whole thing” blah blah blah.
I could say “I read it all years ago, have you?”. Grew up in an evangelical church that encouraged us to read it surprisingly.
The next usual response is “Oh, I appreciate the warning from when you gave it a go.”
I get so tired of faith being used to hurt.
Noooo I though I escaped this shit.
Noooo I though I escaped this shit.
…which shit? You’re in a community called comicstrips and it’s a comic strip.
The bad ones. That are obviously botted. This shit would always be at the top of the page on Reddit. And it’s never funny.
I’m not sure I follow. This doesn’t seem “obviously botted” to me. Is it not possible that different people find different things funny and we don’t all share one common sense of humor?
(Or, I suppose, that comic strips can have value beyond humor.)
Some people don’t think about how they feel and invent reasons or stories to explain their illogical reactions like hating a particular artist’s style or something. They’re afraid that they don’t have a good reason to dislike something popular so they invent justifications.
beep boop
Are you just saying you don’t like pizzacake comics? She’s a real person, not a bot, her comics are popular. It’s okay to just not like a particular artist or creator. Just be honest about it.
edit: reminder people, your brain invents stories to explain how you feel, and most people never question these stories because they think if their own brains are thinking things, it MUST be true, and they think that brains are logical tools for figuring out the world.
NO, your brain is a tool for storytelling, nothing more. It tells you stories to explain how you feel, and it has no obligation to tell stories that make a lick of sense. This is why you get depressed and ruminate and the feelings get worse. This is why people live their whole lives in a belief system that harms them. Understand how your brain works and you won’t be like this user here, flinging out weak, nonsense arguments to explain not liking a popular thing.
The mindset of magatards.
Anyone have the background link explaining this?
Not a pastor, but this is what a certain used car-company salesman is spouting:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/05/politics/elon-musk-rogan-interview-empathy-doge/index.html
I posted a comment here with the context
Yeah, glad to see the specific instance but after trying to search I see this seems to be a broader doctrine. That you would absolutely hate people who “deserve” to be hated, accordingly to the viewpoint of whoever is preaching regardless of whether that person’s situation actually affects anyone other than themselves.
It’s kind of like the evil twin of “be tolerant, except of intolerance”: “be tolerant only of intolerance”
There’s an argument going around evangelical circles that “empathy” is more dangerous than compassion, with the analogy of jumping in to save someone in quicksand, but getting stuck yourself (empathy) vs throwing someone a rope and keeping your footing (compassion). Like if you understand a bad person’s thinking too much, you are dragged into their sin.
There’s even a tinge of women being more empathetic and “susceptible” than men.
It’s how it sounds.
Dig into the argument, and they all eventually end up focusing on dangerous progressive causes as tempting Christians, basically, and it feels like they’re trying to twist scripture into current MAGA doctrine. JD Vance (a Catholic, not evangelical IIRC) said something related on immigration, that loving your family and those close to you comes before loving distant neighbors, which the Pope very pointedly refuted.
He wasn’t a pastor, he was a deacon and probably just a twitter troll but no one here cares about accuracy it seems
Pastors and deacons are both member of the church, and arnt that far apart in rank
Sorry no, you are wrong. But that’s understandable considering how actively ignorant atheists are about what actually happens in churches
My only question is why so fuckdamn many of you are ALSO so arrogant about it
Basically your side believes in 100 kinds of magic and fairy tales, at least in America the majority of self described Christians believe that the earth is less than 10k years old wished into being by what amounts to a prick of a genie and a non trivial minority of these folks believe the Earth is flat.
After spending their life talking to believers who might as well be actual adult Santa worshippers its easy to be both arrogant and a bit confused by the non imaginary part of the holy heirarchy.
Talking like someone who judges groups solely by the actions of loud extremists and oversimplifies anyhting they don’t understand.
Every theist believes in a detailed fantasy world that would shame the imagination of the average schizophrenic.
The Reddit Atheists have entered the chat and are here to stay it seems
Religion is objectively stupid. We are just expected to pretend you all are reasonable because you are the majority.
Because everyone can tell you’re deliberately getting hung up on a technical inaccuracy not relevant to the issue to derail the conversation.
I guess accuracy is only important in your opposition, gotcha
Don’t let it ever be said that heathens aren’t hypocritical as well
Things are important when they matter. What’s keeping you from telling us why it matters in this instance? Cmon educate those heathens.
Both are ordained ministers, the preist just leads the parish, and the deacon helps the preist lead a parish. Hierarchically they are adjacent. Why are you so confident of my religion?
Sorry about not knowing the intricacies of your imaginary friend’s club. BTW, claiming that your imaginary friend is the only one that’s real is pretty arrogant too.
Ok then cite me my post where I claimed God was real.
I FUCKING DARE YOU
You can only win arguments when you fill your opposition’s mouth with lies
First of all, calm down, you don’t want to incur in the deadly sin of wrath and not get invited to the sleepover at your bestie’s.
That’s not how salvation works and even kids in sunday school know that…
Sorry no, you are wrong
Oh no, they mixed up pastor and priest, what a sin! Two words that are super alike and mean basically the same thing, damn them!
Deacons aren’t pastors or priests, they are glorified ushers
They’re still one level down the hierarchy, which was their point
Or are you being an idiot on purpose?
Um… do you imagine that churches are somehow run like the military, and that roles of service are badges of office?
Additionally, there was no ‘down the hierarchy’ point made, they just conflated the two roles, which is why I corrected them
Are you having a problem following this conversation? The ‘Show Context’ button can refresh your memory
Because literally none of us gives one damn shit what the difference between a deacon and a priest is. They’re both trying to sell everyone the idea that they’re magical friend in the sky wants all of us to obey a bunch of rules that were written almost two thousand years ago and contradict themselves constantly.
Some day when you grow up you are gonna cringe so hard over this post that I almost want to screencap it for when you eventually delete it
Them: “I don’t care about your religion”
You: “Omg you’re gonna look sooooo stupid.”
If your only counter argument is a spongebob meme then maybe you want to think on what I said about maturity for a moment.
Aww who are we kidding, everyone knows you’re a perpetual child
… SpongeBob?
Why do you think that is cringe? I wouldn’t have thought so at 14 or at 44
I’m not religious, but it was cringe because they were reveling in thier ignorance right before paroting common online reductions of faith. “Obey your sky daddy’s rules” and all that. Seems trite. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You have an imaginary friend, and you’re trying to defend him on the internet…
I bet it would shock you to find out that the existence or lack thereof of an Abrahamic god is irrelevant to me.
Or, to use crayon terms: It really doesn’t matter to how I live my life if He exists or not. I choose to live as if He does and it has benefited me immensely. If somehow direct material proof of the nonexistence of god appeared tomorrow, or even the opposite, I will still live my life as I have been.
My main point is that the abandonment of cultural sacredness is why we are descending into fascism right now and you whiny little ratheists are a big part of the reason
You really have no idea how many progressive Christians you piss off with your wide-assed brush you keep painting us with
Not Abrahamic, still imaginary. Still cringe.
I bet it would shock you to find out that the existence or lack thereof of an Abrahamic god is irrelevant to me.
I’m not shocked, because based on your posts, I have no reason to care what you think.
You really have no idea how many progressive Christians you piss off with your wide-assed brush you keep painting us with
Well all you little bitches can just turn the other cheek.
LoL, the arrogance of this comment is absolutely hilarious. I’m GenX. I’ve been through all of it with religion. The only cringe here is you.
With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
Daniel 11:32
He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.
Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10
… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.
Daniel 11:21
After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.
He will try to change the set times and the laws.
Dan. 7:25
Daniel 8 and 11 here are talking about a prophecy that has already “been fulfilled” - common in the Bible to make these kinds of retroactive prophecies. The bad guy being described there is Antiochus.
That is just Daniel 8. Daniel 11 could reasonably be talking about modern times
Could literally be talking about billions of people from a period spanning thousands of years.
Which is why some people still hold it up as a valuable text. It’s a well written book of scams to keep the ignorant masses in line.
It is, in essence, a compilation of the vague shite that “fortune tellers” spew to the marks looking to be told what they want to hear.
Not really, from context pretty sure it’s one of those “ex post facto” prophecy things.
This is why people should read books of the Bible and not verse. Random bits out of context are used to imply so much BS.
Now then, I tell you the truth: Three more kings will arise in Persia, and then a fourth, who will be far richer than all the others. When he has gained power by his wealth, he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece. Then a mighty king will arise, who will rule with great power and do as he pleases. After he has arisen, his empire will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted and given to others.
The king of the South will become strong, but one of his commanders will become even stronger than he and will rule his own kingdom with great power. After some years, they will become allies. The daughter of the king of the South will go to the king of the North to make an alliance, but she will not retain her power, and he and his power will not last. In those days she will be betrayed, together with her royal escort and her father[ and the one who supported her.
One from her family line will arise to take her place. He will attack the forces of the king of the North and enter his fortress; he will fight against them and be victorious. He will also seize their gods, their metal images and their valuable articles of silver and gold and carry them off to Egypt. For some years he will leave the king of the North alone. Then the king of the North will invade the realm of the king of the South but will retreat to his own country. His sons will prepare for war and assemble a great army, which will sweep on like an irresistible flood and carry the battle as far as his fortress.
None of this is connected to Revelation, which was written centuries later.
Empathy is the enemy of the the manipulative. Their shallow and transparent manipulations wont get past someone with even a small amount of it.
True for some. Others specifically exploit your empathy by centering it on themselves, red herrings, or subverting the action it motivates.
