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Because some like proprietary and why would you make their lives harder? As long as it’s interoperable and a part of a broader healthy ecosystem there’s place for every approach.
Like, I wouldn’t mind if someone made a proprietary Activity Pub Reddit alternative. They could compete on some UI features, support, moderation etc. The more the merrier and we could all still talk.
Well, the only reason I can see them liking proprietary is because that money still exists and that money allows propietary companies (and open source to be fair) to do more. If money didn’t exist there would be no need for proprietary companies nor a need to ‘protect’ their ‘property’ and in my perfect world money doesn’t exist, therefore no need for proprietary code/products.
I can be called a commie and won’t flinch at it but currency is useful, you just don’t need to fetishise it. People should be rewarded for their work as long as it’s not some form of rentierism. How to organise it isn’t that relevant because there are many ways to achieve it.
I don’t think money or any form of it is the only way to reward people for their work (not that all people need a reward in that sense). I think that is it is might be because of this current system showing that the only way to be rewarded is through monetary compensation.
Also, I’m going to quibble here that the only reason why a lot of jobs currently done require a ‘reward’ is because of the conditions under which people labour, remove those conditions and there will be less of a need for incentives to keep people doing things they either don’t like (because they won’t do them and others that do like them will do them instead if they are truly necessary), or do like but not under such conditions such as long hours or under a strict hierarchy.
I am a cynical idealist so I don’t think there’s a way that doesn’t involve some sort of a compromise with people who think it should be different. Politics is not a way to determine who’s right or the most ethical but the means of working stuff out among groups with different interests. Maybe we can coalesce on something nice later on but for now we know that people can’t be forced into things they don’t want to be forced into. For now and probably forever we also need to coexist and that requires a common trading framework.
Ah, well we are working from different base assumptions then. I’m not cynical, I’m an optimist but yes still an idealist.
I don’t really get your point about politics as politics is everything so yes, it is a way to determine who’s right or the most ethical as well as many other things, I think you might be referring to only electoral politics, otherwise I’m not sure how you could be seeing politics as a way to not determine that.
I disagree, people are forced into things they do not want to do all the time.
Maybe, but it could be a lot fairer than it currently is, my hope is one day it won’t be necessary though or at least not to the same degree that it is now.
Because some like proprietary and why would you make their lives harder? As long as it’s interoperable and a part of a broader healthy ecosystem there’s place for every approach.
Like, I wouldn’t mind if someone made a proprietary Activity Pub Reddit alternative. They could compete on some UI features, support, moderation etc. The more the merrier and we could all still talk.
Well, the only reason I can see them liking proprietary is because that money still exists and that money allows propietary companies (and open source to be fair) to do more. If money didn’t exist there would be no need for proprietary companies nor a need to ‘protect’ their ‘property’ and in my perfect world money doesn’t exist, therefore no need for proprietary code/products.
I can be called a commie and won’t flinch at it but currency is useful, you just don’t need to fetishise it. People should be rewarded for their work as long as it’s not some form of rentierism. How to organise it isn’t that relevant because there are many ways to achieve it.
I don’t think money or any form of it is the only way to reward people for their work (not that all people need a reward in that sense). I think that is it is might be because of this current system showing that the only way to be rewarded is through monetary compensation.
Also, I’m going to quibble here that the only reason why a lot of jobs currently done require a ‘reward’ is because of the conditions under which people labour, remove those conditions and there will be less of a need for incentives to keep people doing things they either don’t like (because they won’t do them and others that do like them will do them instead if they are truly necessary), or do like but not under such conditions such as long hours or under a strict hierarchy.
I am a cynical idealist so I don’t think there’s a way that doesn’t involve some sort of a compromise with people who think it should be different. Politics is not a way to determine who’s right or the most ethical but the means of working stuff out among groups with different interests. Maybe we can coalesce on something nice later on but for now we know that people can’t be forced into things they don’t want to be forced into. For now and probably forever we also need to coexist and that requires a common trading framework.
Ah, well we are working from different base assumptions then. I’m not cynical, I’m an optimist but yes still an idealist.
I don’t really get your point about politics as politics is everything so yes, it is a way to determine who’s right or the most ethical as well as many other things, I think you might be referring to only electoral politics, otherwise I’m not sure how you could be seeing politics as a way to not determine that.
I disagree, people are forced into things they do not want to do all the time.
Maybe, but it could be a lot fairer than it currently is, my hope is one day it won’t be necessary though or at least not to the same degree that it is now.