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There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.
By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I’d happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.
I don’t want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.
If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can’t see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.
Well… Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we’ll see
Nebula
I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.
Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.
God I miss the pre-Youtube era. “Content creators” looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.
I mean, sure but we are past that. No large YouTuber will give up getting paid, and go to a system with a much smaller user base so even stuff like affiliate links and sponsorships are worth less. Basically double lose money just to join peertube. Especially since most large YouTubers have a team of people who they pay, so they cannot afford for their employees sake to take such a large loss just to support peertube.
More likely this leads to Vimeo, or like twitch TikTok or something else being able to support a normal video platform than it leads to people using peertube.
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It’s because some people don’t actually support workers, especially creative workers, regardless or their political identity.
It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete
Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.
Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don’t ask for payment for.
“Content creators” who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.
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No, my point specifically relates to creative work. You said in your comment:
under our current economic model people require money to survive and if they do not get money for doing their creative work they might not be able to continue making that work.
This is false, basically. They can do other types of work. Creative work can be done without making money for it. Plenty of people have a day job and make creative work in their free time. The same option is not available for most other types of work, such as government, doctors, lawyers, etc. If you try to do these types of jobs outside of the framework of a regulated business, you’ll get the book thrown at you.
The issue I’m getting at isn’t “are you responsible for the actions you take to make a living”. Rather, I’m getting at the issue of “does creative work require becoming an employee of a capitalist company, thereby siding with its shareholders in having a vested interest in increasing that company’s profits regardless of the societal damage caused?”
The answer to that question is a resounding “no”. Creatives need to grow a spine and get a day job.
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“you’re not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video.” Certainly is… a take. But anyways, I’m not even talking about being leftist or not or whatever. I just mean, people. Period. It’s not selfish to want to get paid for making something. People need money to live.
Are there content creators who fucking suck? Yes. But there’s also ones that don’t. They’re allowed to make money.
you’re not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video.
I didn’t say that, though. Clearly it’s not worth engaging with you.
People expect to pay a carpenter or a plumber for their services, why shouldn’t entertainers and content creators be allowed to get paid for their work?
I subscribe to a lot of full time “content creators” that are ad supported and supported via donations.
I curate my feed meticulously to avoid slop, and I get a lot of value, learning and entertainment from those I follow.
I believe they deserve to be paid for the tremendous amount of work they put in.
Some sort of ability to generate a livable wage from creating high quality content seems reasonable, no?
You can pay them. They can choose to require it. Nobody needs to pay a fucking gestapo in between
MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators.
MetaFilter has at multiple points been on the verge of shutting down, no? IIRC, you pay $5 for an account.
That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.
It’s frightening. Why do people not make an effort to leave Reddit?
How can the same people run a dictatorship of the proletariat? Even democracy, I don’t see how society as a whole can avoid being manipulated.
The ‘not leaving centralized services’ thing isn’t really helped when there’s basically no other viable alternatives, like is the case with YT. PeerTube exists, sure, but it’s a content desert, sadly.
Now, if PeerTube had more content to choose from…
Really though, Reddit, Meta, Twitter, and Discord all have viable decentralized alternatives in the form of Lemmy, Pixelfed, Mastodon (Mastodon serving as an alternative for both Facebook and Twitter), and Matrix respectively, why can’t PeerTube serve as a truly viable decentralized alternative for YT?
Even Linux is in its glow-up arc as a viable Windows alternative lately ffs, and I’m glad to have been on that bandwagon for years before that platform started gaining mainstream attention.
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It’s harder than that IMO. There are plenty alternatives to many bad things but people just don’t care. Just like Linux, for the average person that’s got enough shit to deal with, they don’t wanna add what they perceive like a difficulty and remove comfort by having to start from scratch with less options. Also, being cut from the mainstream trends, and the general social thing.
Not speaking for me as I’ve been mostly degoogling and demicrosofting, even tho I still partly feeling like that for YouTube that’s been a very valuable part of my life (yes. I do read and go outside. But please stop suggesting that to people in such threads, that’s missing the point), and that I couldn’t let go off yet. Alternatives rn are either totally devoid of content (at least, the one I like), or paid (didn’t gave a shot to Nebula, I’ll browse it and see, but it might be hard to beat both my favorite creators I spent years curating, and the fact that you can find anything on any obscure thing)
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Google should get destroyed
Don’tbe evilAs reported from a substack writer… 🤮
Substack platforms and monetizes Nazis.
Mind providing a bit more context to this so I can look it up ? I’ll boycott substick if need be.
I found some older news articles, but nothing more recent for an update.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/09/substack-nazi-content-policies-controversy/
https://theracket.news/p/substacks-nazi-problem-isnt-going-away?ref=platformer.news
This one’s more recent. As of six months ago, still a problem.
https://www.platformer.news/leaving-substack-platformer-year-four/ This looks to be straight from the person that BroBot9000 was referring to. Interesting read.
Oh sorry, didn’t know about that
First reddit now youtube. Welcome to the tech broligarchy
We need a good federated youtube replacement so badly…
It’s always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.
Tbh money could be the initiative. So many content creators nowadays have platforms beside YouTube. Often even self hosted weboages. If a federated alternative would come up, they could just set up an own server and keep all the earnings.
This would somehow need to get started though. No idea how.
It’s even more difficult since the content has to be stored somewhere, and needs to be streamed which requires storage and processing power, with the latter needing to be able to scale so the user experience doesn’t get bogged down by new people joining.
The entire revenue model of compensating the host and content creator does require a rethink, but it’s hard to see how that could be done without paywalling access to host, view, and/or both of the above.
PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content
It seems so difficult to use though
It is kinda bad. Especially when it comes to finding content or getting noticed
Yeah, and the platform is set up in a way that hinders onboarding and discoverability of what’s there (at least, compared to youtube’s approach…). These are all problems that prevent it from replacing YouTube. If you read Peertube’s official site they even say upfront that they’re not trying to be a YouTube replacement
Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.
I’m not in favor of YouTube, but what exactly missing here?
It used to say gender expression and identity. If it doesn’t, that’s a deliberate decision that could cause enforcement calls like ‘well that’s not your REAL gender so this isn’t harassment’.
I mean… It’s already over-specified compared to others: “sex, gender or sexual orientation”. It’d be equally right to criticize religion for why don’t they write “belief, spiritualism, religion”, and to include identity, and expression.
They should just write “sex stuff”, and everyone is happy.
Fuck rainbow capitalism
I’m more concerned about “anti-rainbow” capitalism. Like what’s happening right now where instead of being performatively progressive they become performatively reactionary. (Well, I suppose that’s just reactionary.)
Basically what I mean is I want rainbow capitalism to exist, but in a very specific way: I want rainbow capitalism to be the bare minimum a company has to implement if they want to exist. I want the social circumstances to force them to at least pretend to be on the right side of history.
Honestly, the real problem in rainbow capitalism is the capitalism part.
The point is, is that it doesn’t matter. Companies are not true allies, they just do whatever earn them the most money and PR
If it means to become literal Nazis, then they become literal Nazis. And sell the supplies to the gas chambers
They also allowed a pedo back on their platform
As i signed up for this sub, I thought I’d be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis. But I guess that’s not something that this sub is ready to face.
When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.
Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.
All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.
I’d be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.
I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but…
Tim Cook is just as fucking evil as the rest of them.
I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren’t so damn overdue. They don’t even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING
Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.
their ads platform ruined the internet
Ads were the bane of the internet FAR before Google even fucking existed. lol
and yet somehow google made it worse. Not only are there more ads than ever before, but now it’s also a panopticon.
What’s wrong with Golang? Agrees on all other points, and perhaps this one as well
The key point here is our programmers… They’re not capable of understanding a brilliant language… So, the language that we give them has to be easy for them to understand ―Rob ‘Commander’ Pike, creator of Go
And here’s a related blog post: https://valuedrivenit.blogspot.com/2015/12/to-go-language-is-mess.html?m=1
It’s a very opinionated language in the worst way possible.
It’s okay. I gotcha so you don’t got to ssy it
Spicehoarder told y’all so!
You think chrome is bad? You should try the GCP console, 2 tabs were using 15GB RAM.
Google search feels like it has stopped being the magic it was. Now whenever I search for something I might not find it underneath all the stuff on sale. For the first time in I don’t know how many years I’ve been finding myself using something else like Duck Duck Go.
Consider the decentralized family of https://trom.tf/ apps, such as https://search.trom.tf/ as a replacement (that’s the only one I use of their stuff so far… but may poke around more later).
What a treasure trove. I love lemmy
The AI nonsense, the flawed ranking and the pages of sponsored links. Honestly, Google is just straight up useless.
I used to use Google shopping to find certain items and compare websites. Now the entire left side that used to be a filter list is replaced. When you click a “filter” option it just adds text to the search bar. Then it will include an essay about why these are your options for something and recommend top brands, but then just list everything.
Yep, that’s intentional. They stopped prioritizing user experience and started prioritizing ad revenue instead a while ago
youtube has enshittified for a while, they went downhill as soon as they announced that they no longer backed election denial reports. then all the right wing, anti-woke videos started popping up all over the place, plus the one that try to seem like its both sides videos too.
allowing people like beast, and others to dominate the front, was asking for trouble.
I would appreciate it if we could just get rid of this dumbass “hate speech” rule.
I would appreciate it if we could get rid of this dumbass. ^
