Alrighty, old Linux user from the earliest of days.

It was fun, really great to have one-on-one with Linus when Lilo gave issues with the graphic card and the screen kept blank during booting.

It was new, few fellow students where interested, but the few that did, all have serious jobs in IT right know.

Probably the mindset and the drive to test out new stuff, combined with the power Linux gave.

I couldn’t agree more with your stand about the need for devices to be smart.

It is all about data-mining and advertising.

Maybe this is just me (or wishful thinking), but I do notice more people being cautious about stuff that needs a cloud connection.

People around me create dummy accounts to register Android enabled televisions, prefer stuff by eufy over ring etc.

Maybe we -as a bunch of uncontrollable nerds- should educate people more or at least share stuff like the wiki by Louis.

People need to know, they are the product…

Oh! The IOT toaster, perhaps a really good analogy! That was a good read and fitting for this situation.

When was it published? 2019/2020 ?? Well, took just 5 years for the corporate greed to get on par.

The point here is:

• not all functionality is available as-is. You need to install a cloud connected app.
• a cloud connection is not per se one direction. It is more than possible, the people operating this cloud (for Bosch) have the means (read: api) to connect back into your network via the hardware.

You might take a good look at this work.

As long as the firmware of the dishwasher isn’t audited by third parties (or even better: open source), who knows what it is able to do in your network?

And all of this is not necessary, before the cloud, dishwashers worked fine too.

The statement from Espressif:

https://www.espressif.com/en/news/Response_ESP32_Bluetooth

Cars.

• mechanical, no software bugs
• physical buttons, no touch screen
• everything just worked, no need to license the heating of your chair
• freaking lane assist

You get it…