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  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.iotoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•*Permanently Deleted*
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    2 days ago

    It certainly isn’t just guys that have sex or masturbate.

    Of course, that’s not what I’m trying to say though. My point is that I doubt a significant fraction of girls find it desirable to, say, jack off to a picture of a guy with his shirt off, while if we ignore the ethics of it most guys would have no problem jacking off to a picture of a moderately attractive topless woman.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.iotoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•*Permanently Deleted*
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    2 days ago

    You think that rating somebody by hot or not does not change your view, nor anybody else’s? Teenage girls are not subject the influence of popularity, it’s only teenage boys? Teenage girls aren’t going to gossip about the dads, share pictures, jerk off to them,

    Admittedly I don’t understand popularity dynamics on either sex so I can’t speak much to that, but jerk off to them? I wouldn’t think so no. I mean what’s the most sexual a non-porn picture of a man can get? Abs? Muscular thighs? There’s a lot more room for sexuality in a woman’s appearance than a man’s (and men are just hornier).

    dream about being in a relationship with them,

    That sounds possible, but you’d be better off asking a woman rather than speculate.

    worship them, non of that?

    I don’t think even guys worship hot women.

    That makes it right, doesn’t it?

    No, it makes it its own event worthy of consideration on its own merits, not by analogy because the analogy assumes symmetry that doesn’t exist.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.iotoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•*Permanently Deleted*
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    2 days ago

    You believe that Dad #1 wouldn’t be treated or viewed differently?

    Yes, exactly. Why do you believe he would be?

    I’m sure you wouldn’t be arguing if it was the mothers that kids were rating.

    Yes, because if it was teenage dudes collecting pictures of hot moms the first thing they’d do is jack off to them. The dynamic is completely different.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.iotoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•*Permanently Deleted*
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    2 days ago

    If beauty pageants were shitposts? Yeah. Beauty pageants place real value (social and sometimes monetary) on external appearance, which takes them from a harmless affair to a symptom of The Patriarchy™. To quote myself from elsewhere in the thread:

    The way I see it, these superficial factors need to materially impact how you treat or view a person before you go from observation to objectification, otherwise “wow this person is tall” becomes objectification which I don’t think is a productive use of the term.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.iotoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•*Permanently Deleted*
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    2 days ago

    Well, I see objectification as looking at the surface of someone and evaluating how beneficial they could be to me, just like I would with goods in a shop

    The way I see it, these superficial factors need to materially impact how you treat or view a person before you go from observation to objectification, otherwise “wow this person is tall” becomes objectification which I don’t think is a productive use of the term. With that view, I see the OP as more shitposting based on an observation than objectification since they’re (at least not explicitly) not forming views based on how hot other people’s dads are. The start of what I’d call objectification would be something like “man I wish my dad was this hot too” or “cope my dad is hotter than yours,” which do reduce the person in question to their superficial characteristics, but since there’s nothing of the sort in the OP I don’t see anyone being objectified.