While great, we should also have some safe guards so normies can use linux without destroying their entire system
I once tried to delete something I was not supposed to and the system was quite adamant on advising against it. The system was to be reinstalled so I was just trying things.
It’s been a while but I recall the system giving me a first warning that my command woud delete X, Y and Z, which could render the system inoperable.
Then it questioned me if I was sure I wanted to proceed with the operation.
The final warning was a sum of the potential damage I would do to the system and that it would be irreversible, without a full system install.
So, three strikes.
I think you mean:
sudo I want to delete everything to corrupt my system
sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=$(df | grep '\s/$' | cut -d' ' -f1)
(Omit the
if you are using the fish terminal)
One good use for AI was a great breakdown of what exactly that command does. I like it.
“Write random shit to root.”
There is a reason they call dd the disk-destroyer.
I remember when windows would let you delete system32 but not Internet Explorer.
Yes, do as I say!
Narrator: “Turned out Windows never needed Edge to work”
It doesn’t even need it to show you ads on your purchased OS, they just do it to be dicks.
I just uninstalled edge on my laptop (still windows for work/study compatability)
EU laws!
It will be back on next update😭
Even with the “proper” uninstall I can do now? noooo, I thought that was only for deleting the files!
Edge is the El Cucaracha of browsers, u can never truly kill it
seems pretty dead to me on my linux machine
This is a classic case of a Linux user speaking out of their ass about windows. If you’re in the EU it should not come back.
Oh, so like the post itself.
And in larger numbers.
As a user, I hate when an OS gets in my way. Or insists that there is one right way to do something.
As the tech support guy in my family, I’m grateful that windows denies permission, has big guard rails, and forces you to do updates.
I suppose immutable systems are ment to stop the end user from bugging out the system but even regular Linux distrios need to assume that there users are incompetent cus I am.
I managed to destroy my immutable linux install by resizing the OS partition while it was running.
I would argue that that mistake is indeed on you and the possibility of failure likely predictable. (At least if you were shrinking it)
Bruh. For how many years did Windows make every luddite, child, and grandparent default Administrator with full, unprompted access to install viruses, run scripts, and delete system files?
Isn’t that still the case with Linux now?
Just add sudo to your commands
Nah. Fuck forced updates. Only time I’m forced to use windows is for work.
I have to play the “low battery” game when it starts notifying me during work. Unplugging and repowering the laptop right below 10% so it won’t restart and disconnect my VM and SSH sessions I’m using for work.
I don’t care what anyone says. Updates that can’t have a forever “give me 1 more hour” indefinitely are just going to destroy work.
Suddenly restarting in the middle of someone working is just awful design. I don’t care how many “warnings” there are.
I’m connected to a remote session and doing work. If you restart my computer I could lose my work. The OS is not some self contained thing you can always save the state in.
Unplugging and repowering the laptop right below 10% so it won’t restart and disconnect my VM and SSH sessions I’m using for work.
For SSH, assuming that the remote system is Linux, run
tmux
on the remote system and do your work in that. If your SSH session gets killed off, you just ssh in andtmux attach
to your old session.
Yup. And I’ve seen countless “articles” by trust-me-i-am-it-guru’s whining that this is allowed
Linux is not free like in “freeware” but in “free to fuck yourself if you want”
Free as in climbing
Free as in fallin’?
It’s both. Free as in free beer (gratis) and free as in freedom (libre).
Just gotta say sudo
And everything and your entire PC is under your control
sudo apt remove grub
I might be wrong, but I think that actually wouldn’t do anything, because grub is installed by the tooling from the package, not the package itself?
Try it and report back
I’m tempted, though I use rEFInd not grub, but fixing any damage should be easy with a live image handy…
You’re very brave! I meant on like a virtual machine
Eh, I’ve previously fucked up my bootloader, all you need to do to fix it is boot up a live image, mount your root partition, arch-chroot into it, then follow normal steps to set it back up - it’s not scary if you know what you’re doing, just time-consuming
E: Removing essential system-critical packages is not permitted. This might break the system.
You can still do it if you really want, but even Linux rightly has some protections against breaking your system.
I do want to clarify: it’s not Linux itself, but specific distributions (or rather their package managers). As far as I know, Arch’s pacman would do nothing to stop me 🥰
Yeah, swapped out
grub
forsystemd-init
on a running Arch system not too long ago. Arch is cool with it. Be sure not to make any really bad typos while you’ve not got a boot manager, of course.True, Linux applications (e.g. apt, dnf, pip, but also rm, sudo, and many more) would be more precise.
For Arch, it’s probably not so easy to define “essential” packages, as it, for example, supports many different bootloaders. It is of course also a question of distro philosophy and target audience. Personally, I’ve noticed that “rm -r” as root prompts for every file on RHEL but does not on Arch…
Single use linux.
I once forgot to install the Linux package when I was installing Arch on a system. Linux even let’s you not use Linux, if you like.
It didn’t boot.
Android: screenshot dir? Use DIRECTORY_PICTURES env variable. Changing either? Lol, eat dirt pleb.
I did this once by accident, I deleted every file that had KDE as a dependency recursively. As well as every file that KDE listed as a dependency, recursively.
Lesson learnt
You can’t kill windows with windows but you can kill Linux with Linux. Remember that.
You can definitely kill window with windows,it’s just done through the GUI and it’s a messy operation, like killing a whale with a chainsaw.
Or it decides to do it all by itself, no user interaction required.