• In December, an investigation by Tom’s Hardware found that Recall frequently captured sensitive information in its screenshots, including credit card numbers and Social Security numbers — even though its “filter sensitive information” setting was supposed to prevent that from happening.
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    9 days ago

    I don’t understand why Lemmy is so obsessed with Recall. It only works if you have an ARM CPU with an NPU. Nearly every Windows user is on an x86-64 chip.

    Yes I agree that it shouldn’t exist in Windows at all, but everyone is complaining about a feature that less than 1% of users even have access to; the amount of people who opt into using is going to be even smaller.

    Stop obsessing over it so much and find something different to hate on Microsoft over. God knows there’s plenty of other reasons to dislike them. Seriously, it’s so annoying. I’m about to set a filter for the word “recall”.

    • moonburster@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      I get that it is annoying for you since you obviously don’t have a pc that will run it, yet.

      But a lot of problems in tech started because it was just there and didn’t do that much yet. Lots of governments are still catching up to the big tech to stop them from having too much power, because they slept on it.

      I dislike the recall stuff too, I don’t have a pc that will be able to run it and probably won’t have one for the coming 10 years, unless there is a huge leap in performance. But I do appreciate all the people here making their voices heard and actually bending MS their knee as well.

      So please filter it and get out of the way of the nice people, thank you

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        9 days ago

        And how many people have the latest CPU? Most Lemmy users don’t even have an HDR monitor—tech that’s been mainstream for over a decade at this point—let alone the latest and greatest processor.

        • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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          9 days ago

          So it’s just a matter of time then? When can we complain? A year from now? Two years? Do we have to wait for the next garbage thing Microsoft does? Hey, why don’t you just tell us exactly when it’s okay for us to complain? We bow to you oh great one. We live by your command.

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            9 days ago

            About time someone recognized my authority; thank you.

            Let’s wait until the average user has an NPU before we start complaining again, okay? If that doesn’t work for everyone, let’s have a meeting in my palace tomorrow afternoon to decide on a date, and if I’m in a good mood, I’ll allow it.

    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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      9 days ago

      Not to mention it’s optional, entirely on device, and secure.

      Let’s be honest, most of Lemmy users complaining about it are on Linux or a Chromebook anyway. They can’t use it even if they wanted to.

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      9 days ago

      to vast majority of people this is unthinkable. They will also likely just not even notice news like this because they dont pay attention to such things and likely dont even care about their personal info until something bad happens to them because of that.

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        9 days ago

        Stealing this info and posting it publicly is an important way to fight back. Once prole hear their credit card is being defrauded because of recall it will be untenable for it to stay

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    10 days ago

    Makes sense why they want this technology so much, one thing has really been achieved - in year 2005 you couldn’t make a program that would be a keylogger and a useful thing all in one, so you had to make a keylogger somehow detect those rare events one can risk it running, or something like that. You couldn’t instruct it in English “send me his private messages on sites like Facebook”, you had to be specific and solve problems. Now you can. And these “AI”'s are usually one program with generic purpose. To stuff everything together with kinda useful things.

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    8 days ago

    WHAAAT? I would NEVER expect that from a company so good that cares about me and my data. They even tell me that in the perfect operating system! Windows! I just love bloat and ads and ai everywhere on my 150$ piece of software!!!

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    9 days ago

    That AI is going to be copying a lot of “I put on my robe and wizard hat”

  • Mr. Broken@lemmynsfw.com
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    9 days ago

    This is top tier comedy: Microsoft won the PC war to be benevolent and give it to Linux. How kind of them to shoot themselves in the foot for the good of mankind.

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      They didn’t fully hand it to Linux yet. We still have to earn that. Ideological appeal / privacy concern alone isn’t enough for many people if the jump seems too scary, particularly if it feels like a one-directional leap of faith. What if they don’t like it on the other side? Better the devil you know…

      We need to build bridges, in both directions: help and encourage people to switch to Linux, but also promise them help to get back, basically an “out” if they don’t like it. I see plenty of guides for migrating to Linux, but how about getting back to Windows?

      It’s okay not to like Linux, it’s okay to be scared or apprehensive, and it’s okay to get cold feet and return to the familiar. Maybe some time in the future they’ll try again.

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    9 days ago

    everywhere is copying your private messages. Google, facebook, microsoft, reddit, your phone texts, anything you’ve ever posted anywhere. This isn’t news

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    10 days ago

    They say you can disable Recall by keep pornhub videos running in foreground.

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    10 days ago

    We already know this. It’s not just Microsoft; Google, Meta, and other big tech companies are also involved in similar practices.

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      9 days ago

      google has on various phones, a app that records your phone, but you can delete it. google also uses vcaptcha V3 which they lent the technology to REDDIT as well.

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          9 days ago

          I mean, but we pretty much do know? The difference between Linux and Windows / MacOS is Linux is open source and can be checked and audited by anyone. If an exploit exists, it will be visible publicly and just needs to be spotted by those knowledgeable enough. Windows and MacOS are more than likely audited too but by private companies under NDA, so then it’s left up to Microsoft or Apple to decide what exploits are fixed.

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            9 days ago

            I agree completely that open source can be audited by anyone, but I did read something tried to be sneaked into an update, and you never really know, software is complicated and maybe some roundabout way to have an exploit using code that looks like it’s intent was something different.

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              Ah yes, I think that was when a FOSS maintainer had to step down and handed it off to someone else if I remember right? See this XKCD for relevance. It’s pretty ridiculous how much we (and companies with billion dollar revenues) rely on the free work of others for such important systems. But yes, an important distinction to make is that certain Linux distributions may use code by others that is not open source and malicious without them realizing.

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    10 days ago

    Well at least there are all kinds of checks and balances to prevent big tech and the US Government from abusing this information, right? Thank goodness we have no reason to worry about it being used for political surveillance and identifying who to send to foreign concentration camps, or anything like that.