SUSE just open-sourced a typeface :)
I’m not a fan of the way the lowercase L’s tail interacts with uppercase letters, but other than that it’s not bad!
The “fi” combination also seems problematic since they seem to intersect.
That’s a ligature, it’s deliberate.
To me, that’s even worse. Ligatures that have 0 separation where it’s expected short circuit my reading comprehension.
You can turn them off with every font. But you’ll be surprised by how much they can improve readability, because they remove optical irritation as shown here.
So what I see there is that badly designed fonts require ligatures to correct interactions.
Like, I get that there are some neat ones, e.g. I have them turned on when writing code for symbols, but they seem wholly unnecessary and distracting in alphabetical characters.
But I’m also the kind of weirdo that thinks the world needs more monospace fonts.
/shrug
It is the exact opposite. Ligatures were created to help deal with the lack of clarity when symbols overlap. fi, ff, fl, ffi, have historically (like print press historical) been common ligatures where others are stylistic, where others are downright questionable & make things harder to read. The first category should almost always be supported, & the others can usually be disabled if not commonly off by default where you opt in for some design, not for general body copy.
What you are referring to about ‘programming ligatures’ is an outright abuse of open type features full of false positives, ambiguities, & lack of clarity for outsiders to understand what your code means. What you want is Unicode supported in your language so you can precisely what you mean than using ASCII abominations—like meaning
→but typing->, dash + greater, than which isn’t at all what you mean which is a rightward arrow. (with a non-exhaustive languages with decent Unicode support: Raku, Julia, Agda, PureScript, Haskell with Unicode pragma, & all APL dialects).
That’s what a ligature is. Combining two characters so they don’t clash.
I don’t love it, but I also went in hoping for a possible new monospaced font to try out. It’s nice to have options and maybe give Suse a slightly more distinct look I suppose.
Random recommendation, but I recently stumbled upon https://monaspace.githubnext.com, and it seems like a pretty cool approach to the whole “monospace font for dev work”
I remember these when they came out, and I liked Neon and Krypton the most. I’m glad you linked it so others might get to see it though, thanks!
The idea of the github fonts is interesting, but I find it strange that the same letters next to each other can have different widths. I currently prefer the CommitMono approach.
That’s actually very much my kind of font, thanks a lot. At first glace I still prefer my current font (Liberation Mono), but I’ll give it a test run and see how it feels after a couple of weeks. You can never tell right away if a font is a keeper.
Looks great, thanks for sharing
I like that idea of using the different fonts for e.g. Copilot suggestions - reminds me of reading Asterix comics as a kid when they’d use gothic black for the Goth’s speech, etc.
edit: e.g.
Try this: https://www.programmingfonts.org/
I’ve used it in the past, thanks for reminding me of it though.
This will be a nice addition to my collection of fonts :3
But does it have unicode emojis?
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Hmm it specifically seems to be missing emojis
I think it is a beautiful font, but I feel like I can not read it as well as others fonts in my high DPI small font (or basically anything small) setup.
Tried it on Gnome, didn’t look the greatest. The numbers in the time were really close to the colon in the top panel. Very well could just be a Gnome issue though, the way it handles fonts is weird.
Looks nice, but I will keep IBM Plex Mono.
i fw it
What does this means?
@P4ulin_Kbana @potentiallynotfelix fw = fuck with. It means they like it.
Already in the AUR as otf-suse and ttf-suse. :)
Silly question: what’s the difference between the otf and ttf fonts?
As far as I understand it, TTFs are more basic, while OTF can have more features and glyphs.
Sounds like it, yeah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueType
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTypeOTF is a modern extended version of TTF, with more features. Downsides are it can be bigger in filesize and could even take longer to load. But that is not really relevant for modern computing and one should default to OTF, unless there is a good reason to use TTF variant (if both are available).
Not a fan of semi-serif fonts, and not digging the rounded “corners” on E and L (while having sharp ones in l and I), but it seems it is trying to be highly readable so indeed it should be great for UI stuff. And doing a complete typeface covering such huge character map is no easy job.
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It’s a nice font. I just have a hard time with trusting SUSE after the SUSE vs OpenSUSE debacle.
I need more discussion on typefaces. Typography is one of my hyperfixations. :-)
hyperfixations
You probably mean “special interest”. Simplifying, hyperfixation is such a strong fixation on something that you absolutely can’t think about anything else.
Yeah, this is the correct term, thank you!
Based on what I’ve seen from this person, this is all I ever seen them talking about
no dotted zeroes = no terminal use
I don’t see a monospaced version anyway
I don’t think this font was designed for the terminal. It’s a sans font with some inspiration from monospace styling, but with focus of brand recognition and usage in headlines or text. That’s what I’m getting here. Similar to what Ubuntu does with their font.
That’s awesome! Now how can I add it to Libreoffice?
Same as any other font. Add it to ~/.fonts or /usr/local/fonts. You might also have something like font browser already preinstalled, and usually there’s an Install button
Thank you! :D
