• Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Home server: Proxmox (Debian). Redundant DNS: Raspbian (Debian). Parent’s server: Debian (Debian).

    Gonna be honest, I mostly live off my phone and a retroid pocket.

      • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
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        8 months ago

        I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux

        for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.

        Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.

        the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.

        But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros

        If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite

        If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos

        If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.

        • Crismus@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          I hear you. I was looking more for Arch with less of a hassle. Something similar to my Steamdeck. I guess I should just wipe this weekend for something else. I really want something for playing my steam and GOG games that works with my Nvidia 3080.

          Luckily for me I keep every game installed on different Steam Libraries so wiping my install drive to put something else in isn’t difficult.

        • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
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          8 months ago

          If openSUSE Slowroll wasn’t experimental I’d recommend it in place of Manjaro. It’s a rolling release with monthly releases.

          • Dojan@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            I really like Tumbleweed. Sure it updates a lot, but it doesn’t force updates so you can take it at your own pace.

            • Zaemz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              8 months ago

              SUSE’s Open Build Service absolutely rules, too. I use Fedora personally, but would switch to Tumbleweed any day. I’ve gone back and forth, eventually settling on Fedora only because of familiarity with Red Hat.

              There are things I miss, big one being Zypper. It’s slow as balls but it’s usability and ability to dig through packages is unmatched, in my opinion.

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 months ago

      So going off the chalice in the movie, the distro that will save you from judgment is the plainest one – the one with the least bloat? That tracks.

        • barsquid@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          More like Alpine or something else without systemd. I mean no shade (well, a bit of shade) since I’ve got Fedora myself. Alpine doesn’t even have glibc IIRC.

            • barsquid@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              I think it is breaking the Unix philosophy, it is an enormous piece of code that does so many different things. My ideal is smaller components with smaller dependencies. When distros or software becomes inextricably dependent on systemd they are then beholden to whichever direction the maintainers take it.

              My take on it is somewhat based on “what if.” Other people have some pragmatic discussions on security aspects if you search around.

              • Zaemz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                8 months ago

                I’m not a systemd guru, but I do find it relatively easy to work with.

                I’ve noticed that a lot of it is actually made up of separate binaries and daemons. Is it wrong or misleading to think of systemd as a collection of utilities that share a common DSL as opposed to a strict monolith?

          • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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            8 months ago

            10 years security updates, plus security patches for community packages (instead of waiting on community patches). It’s basically the corporate support plan provided for free for up to 5 machines per account.

            • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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              8 months ago

              security patches for community packages (instead of waiting on community patches)

              I’m not sure I understand that part. Is Canonical implementing the patches instead of the open source project/package developers? I’m confused.

              • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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                8 months ago

                Exactly. In Debian, the community implements security patches. In Ubuntu, Canonical implements security patches for a part of the repo (main), the community implements them for the remainder (universe). This has been the standard since Ubuntu’s inception. With Ubuntu Pro, Canonical implements security patches for the whole repo (main and universe).

        • iopq@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Spent a ton of time trying to install GrapheneOS because web USB doesn’t work in snap version of chrome. How about letting me install the normal deb version? Nope, can’t let the user choose

        • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.ukEnglish
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          8 months ago

          Yeah, it’s fine. Haven’t had too much trouble in a good 10 odd years, once the WiFi drivers settled. Mind you I’m not fucking upgrading to 24.04 for another couple of weeks.

          • tsugu@slrpnk.net
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            8 months ago

            Pretty much. Canonical made a few questionable choices in the past but overall they’ve done a lot for the Linux community. And their distro is very good. There is a reason why distros choose it as their base.

    • gsfraley@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Same, Fedora’s my main driver at this point. It’s the only one that seems to support being close to the edge that well without instability. And I no longer have the patience or risk acceptance for Arch/-derived systems at this point, as much as I enjoy using them as a hobby and to preview the latest tech stacks.

  • TheKracken@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Just setup Mint last night and have been troubleshooting how to get everything to work. So far I’m liking it. Last thing I setup was Lutris for gaming so that’s nice.

        • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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          8 months ago

          I’m pretty sure the question was more about linux mint (ubuntu/default) vs. linux mint debian edition, as those can confidently be called different distros. Don’t worry about it though, the issues with ubuntu are actually very small, they’re just infinitely magnified on the internet by people who care a lot about the smallest things. There are also many advantages to using ubuntu or an ubuntu derivative. Also this question can be interpreted very humorously, so maybe do that if you like.

          • TheKracken@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Ah I assume Ubuntu based since I just downloaded the latest from the mint website. Still learning about Linux so not 100% sure.

            • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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              8 months ago

              If you just went with the most prominent and easily accessible download button it’ll probably be ubuntu, but as i said, despite what some might say that’s not necessarily a bad thing

              • Zink@programming.dev
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                8 months ago

                If he got the cinnamon version, that is indeed the default Ubuntu based one. I use the same thing.

                One of the biggest draws of regular Mint IMO is that it leverages the advantages and resources of Ubuntu but it removes the parts that many people don’t like.

  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Put any distro in front of me and provided I don’t need to master it, I’m good. Ubuntu is fine. Debian is fine. RedHat is fine. Fedora is fine. I even have a tiny low-end system that is using Bohdi. Whatever. We’re all using mostly the same kernel anyway.

    90% of what I do is in a container anyway so it almost doesn’t matter; half the time that means Alpine, but not really. That includes both consuming products from upstream as well as software development. I also practically live in the terminal, so I couldn’t care less what GUI subsystem is in play, even while I’m using it.

  • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    Nobara! switched 2 days ago, deleted my Windows partition 3 hours ago because it’s smooth sailing and quite the different experience compared to bashing my head against debian jessie ages ago.

  • fleton@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Just curious does anyone actually care about what distro people use or more just a meme?

      • SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        Because there’s always going to be someone who says the distro you liked the most is not the distro you should be using. (I use Arch btw)

        • Allero@lemmy.today
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          8 months ago

          Arch is unstable and time-consuming to maintain, and should never be reasonably used as anything but upstream for something usable, you’re wrong!

          Jk, you do you :)

      • Strykker@programming.dev
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        8 months ago

        The only people who hate Linux users more than windows and Mac users are Linux users who think you chose the wrong distro

        • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          I’ve always felt good about using Ubuntu and derivatives. I get their opinions and they have some good points, but I’m not sure why I’d let that change my flow.

          • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.autism.placeEnglish
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            8 months ago

            Because Ubuntu sucks! 👎 Here’s a list of why:

            • Snaps = 👹

            • Ads in start menu (they did this before Winblows!)

            • Unity is sooo fucking slow and stupid. That dumbass bar of most used apps always present taking up screen space 🙉

            • Canonical doesn’t give a shit what users want🖕

            But the most important part is that I really don’t care. I don’t use your computer. You do. So use whatever the 🔥hell🔥 you want. Use a version of Winblows 🪟 themed to look like Arch 🤭, wallpaper and all👌, then post screenshots on the Internet about your superiority 💪.

            Live how you want! And if someone shames you for it, kick them out of you life 😎