Koala tea internal code review practices
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So when company do it it’s fine but when we do it to companies it’s not?
Literally the same day as the HP news.
what happened?
(updated with a link)
Naturally. Advantage, privilege and money should only be in the hands of those who run large companies or better.
If that made you angry, bear in mind that’s what most top level company executives think. Well, actually they don’t think it, they know it unconsciously as the true order of the universe they inhabit and they get really uncomfortable should it even look vaguely like someone might be trying a competing philosophy to their own.
To be fair though, most people get really uncomfortable when something might undermine even part of the philosophy they live by.
I worked for a company once that installed a remote-activation killswitch in their drivers, as a secret weapon to force the customer to stay current on their maintenance contract.
The CEO was a fuckup however, and the code killed their system even without being activated - resulting in a bunch of angry phonecalls and some of the most egregious lying I’ve ever heard.
god, he was a piece of shit
Sounds like lawsuit territory
Lol everyone probably fantasizes about such thing sometimes, but even if you weren’t caught, it’s not worth it to personally be bitter like that.
Just got laid off and could had done the same. Except I don’t have to. Internal systems are so bad and undocumented and I was like only IT specialist there who could use linux, and so many things related to core businesses were just basically behind me.
The kill switch has made it self. Funny how I would have written more documentation if I ever was given the time.
Same for my last job. My bosses and managers harassed and insulted me. They said I was useless and stupid.
I quit with 3 months of “notice” (standard in France to help you find a new job). They didn’t care during those 3 months. In the last week they panicked because they could not find a replacement that did everything I fixed every day.
I also interviewed my replacement, a junior out of school with big diplomas. When I asked if he knew Linux, he said “not really.” I thought “they are fucked with this guy.” They wanted to hire him because he was the son of some guy. I said to my boss that he would be a perfect fit for the company.
Unknowingly I was the kill switch. I sent them one last email with all the information they needed and told them to go fuck themselves in a polite way.
malicious compliance, I like it
I didn’t plant anything and I could still brick the production backends of a former employer because some poor ass decisions were made when choosing technologies and then when I pointed it out that it’s pretty bad the technology was stuck with so literally all it takes is sending 2-3 requests so all pods die.
But why do it.
Similar cases with my old company. In my case people who would had suffered the most direct consequences would had been my colleagues who I respect.
But I could totally cause trouble without any backdoor access.
but even if you weren’t caught, it’s not worth it to personally be bitter like that.
Really depends on what you do for a living… Non-profit? Sure. Weapons manufacturer? Fucking have at it.
But don’t be stupid about it. Stash a date somewhere that you manually update every so often (so that it’ll stop being updated if you’re fired) and then add a bunch of random waits whose durations scale with the time since that date. If you’re worried that the code will be found, comment it with some bullshit about avoiding race conditions.
…and now I can’t use that idea, since this comment would be used in court. If I did it to a weapons manufacturer, they’d probably get the death penalty somehow.
comment it with some bullshit about avoiding race conditions
Lmao, amazing
Fair but I wouldn’t ever work for weapons manufacturing. Also sabotage in that context would have heavy punishment, and at worst could cause collateral damage.
I was using that as an example because it was the worst thing that came to mind. There is a whole gradient between non-profit and weapons manufacturer.
For the last time, I didn’t leave a kill switch – I just refused to document anything!
You are truly a madman
Edit: or a madlady
M’lady
Up to 10 years is crazy. Sure, what he did was wrong, planned and malicious, and they claim it cost them tens of thousands of dollars. But 10 years? This is crazy for something that at worst would be a yearly salary of a single employee.
Fucking capitalism.
he should have tried to overthrow the government, or stole classified documents. that’s a drastically lower sentence
“Up to 10 years” is the maximum possible for that type of crime. Actual sentencing guidelines for a $500k loss for a first time offender will probably come out to about 2, maybe 3 years.
In order for the recommended sentence to hit 10 years, we’d have to be talking about damage of over $550 million, or something like a long criminal history.
Substantial disruption of critical infrastructure would get someone to around 5 years, as a reference.
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Now to make it worse, ask this, “If the corporation did 10 times this amount of damage, but to the general citizens of the country, how many people would go to jail?”
That’s right 0 people would go to jail! And they would only be fined for no more than 10% of the profit they made while doing it. Maybe someone like a jr director of operations gets tossed in jail, but he wasnt really apart of the club.
Nah they would have added more fees to subsidize the protections they weren’t going to put in place. Then reach out to the government for subsidies to put these protections in place. Then give bonuses, stock buy backs and when it happened again, they’d raise the fees installed previously and consider making the upgrades if the fine threatened is high enough, if not they’ll pay the fine and buy back more stock and run an ad campaign to make the company look better.
“allegedly costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses.” It seems he was already messing with the systems while he was still working there. This is not a case of malicious compliance or they fired the only guy who knew how something worked. He was actively sabotaging the company’s network.
“he apparently became disgruntled by a corporate “realignment” in 2018 that “reduced his responsibilities,”” So it’s not even like the company was being evil as they fired him while he was on PTO to take care of his daughter with leukaemia (or something). He would’ve been better off finding a new job if he was unhappy. Instead he made things far worse.
But 10 years is way too high. Especially for a victimless crime with alleged “values” of loss. But otherwise he gets no sympathy from me.
allegedly costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses.
Also it’s sabotage, which might attract heavier penalties than mere theft?
Actually for federal sentencing, property destruction is punished under the same table as theft. It’s mostly measured from the amount of loss to the victims, whether the person actually profited from it or not.
Fair enough.
Having known victims of vandalism I can say it hurts more than theft.
Don’t F with the power grid.
owned by the Ohio- and Dublin-based power management company Eaton Corp.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eaton_Corporation
Sentences are always harsh for anything to do with those who provide for public utilities.
@null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com has a comment about sabotage, which was likely a factor combined with this to drive max recommended sentencing.
Honestly, if I had done something like this and they twigged to it, I’d consider just fucking off and joining the French foreign legion.
Dude should have just added comments indicating that the code was part of some security test but was unfinished and extremely dangerous.
Change a few file names, add a comment how it will never run under normal circumstances, and you’ve got plausible deniability.
I actually think I want to give this guy a pat on the back
So he was pissed because they gave him less work to do???
I’m trying to understand it
IT work is feast or famine.
“IT people, your not doing anything, what the hell do we pay you for?”
“IT people, everything is on fire, what the hell do we pay you for?”
How is that feast or famine
I think they mean in terms of workload, not like pay or something. Either you have a lot of work, or very little work. But when you’re needed, you’re needed urgently.
i goes it is ON not OR
Every person that has worked in a sysadmin type role, has joked about doing something like this. Very few actually carry through with it. So, in a way, I kinda like this guy for actually doing it, even if he didn’t cover his tracks very well.
Part of me sympathizes with the guy, but this was reckless
I’d argue that he gave them extra code, a bonus if you will.
Talk about incentivizing us to make even more impactful kill switches!
