For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release

  • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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    1 month ago

    Or alternatively… crzyshrtct was not found on your host, but is required, daddy. Please install it to be able to use the software.

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    I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD

    Are you using a first gen eeePC?
    I think I bought one of those for 40€, 12 years ago.

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    People bitching about Flatpaks don’t understand that they have dedupe built in. You’re literally not using any more space and it’s easier for app developers to deploy.

    Try using Snaps sometime, if you want something to actually bitch about.

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    did you see those little < in front of the download sizes? org.kde.KStyle.Adwaita, org.kdePlatform.Locale, org.kde.Platform and com.ktechpit.torrhunt won’t be fully downloaded as those are possibly already installed and can be reused, so in the best case you only download org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-570-86-16 fully.

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      There’s also deduplication across the different files. So you could even end up with less overall size over time if you use Flatpaks for everything.

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    Another missed occasion to have taken a screenshot. There’s gnome-screenshot, scrot, your DE’s integrated tool and so many others to choose from, you can do it!

    That sort of shit makes me hate the modern internet. (Also screenshots are cleaner and therefore compress better since you seem to care (rightfully) about storage space.)

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      Yeah but if youre using a lemmy app on your phone its significantly faster to just use your phone camera rather than having to share/transfer the file over somehow, or sign into lemmy on your pc. Im not saying you’re wrong, but i get why someone wouldn’t care for a quick throwaway post. Also storage then isnt an issue on the PC at all because the image is only on the phone.

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        Phones also have limited storage?

        Regardless, posting on the desktop is exactly as hard as typing in the name of your instance and your credentials…

        If you’re gonna be editing a meme, typing comments and such, it’s worth it very fast imo.

        And crucially, it’s a really basic form of respect for your audience. Oh and also framing the shot correctly, we’re missing part of the text…

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    2 months ago

    Personally I do like the ideas behind Snap/Flatpak. I think the sandboxing is a huge deal and will improve security going forward.

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      2 months ago

      In a world where space is usually the cheapest and most available hardware on a PC, I tend to agree. That being said, it’s the kind of solution that comes from engineers who put the onus on the hardware to make up for their shitty software. Engineers like me.

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        Yeah. Someone has to put in the work for packaging an application if you want it as a .deb/.rpm etc. package and deal with any bugs that might come up, and it’s not going to be me (speaking as a user, not a developer).

        That said, I also painted myself into a corner when it comes to harddrive space. LUKS can be complicated, man …

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        In a world where space is usually the cheapest and most available hardware on a PC

        I read this in the movie trailer guy’s voice

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    2 months ago

    I hate it when people want to hate on something, yet get the platform or alternatively the proposition wrong. Because you will release stuff as a Flatpak and possibly on Flathub.

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    Lots of people seem to like it. I also use it for like 2 or 3 desktop apps, but it’s alao littering my filesystem with gigabytes of runtimes. And I believe I can salely remove Skype now…

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        No one does, but people like it when you install an application and it just works. It makes it easier to install applications regardless of which distro you’re on as well.

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        Idk, probably all the people who downvoted OP and the majority of people here on Lemmy I met in discussions about Flatpak & Co. And If I look at the average size of a modern Windows installation, I’d say at least 70% of desktop users to begin with.

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            As far as I know, yes. You tell me the alternative if you’ve got it.

            If all you’ve got against Flatpak is it uses more storage, then I don’t know what to tell you. I have a 1TB drive that cost $80 and my GNOME system with 106 flatpaks uses just under 7%. The original post claiming 2TB is absurd.

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              There is no reason that you couldn’t, for instance, bind-mount the host’s nvidia drivers into the container namespace when launching the flatpak. Would avoid having to download the driver again, and reduce runtime memory pressure since the driver code pages would be shared between everything again.

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        I like flatpaks when they come from the developer. They are often more stable, up-to-date and complete than those from OS repositories.

        What I don’t like about them is when I have to fight the permissions. They’re often too tight and make integration with the rest of the OS too hard.

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          Here’s a rarely known secret of the Linux world. Almost no software in a Linux system came from the developer.

          Every single distro, package manager or repository is handled by people who did not develop the software being packaged. The few exceptions are the software who distributes their own .deb/.rpm, appimage, flatpak or their own repository. But the bulk of tools, utilities and apps were handled by the people managing the distribution or the distro main repository. No sane developer has the team or the time to config, compile, package, and test their software to every single Linux distro that exists. Hence why Dev distributed versions are usually targeted to single channels and to specific distros and versions. Packages compatibility is a literal hell.

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        2 months ago

        Technically it’s empty space that’s being wasted, if you fill it up it’s being useful!

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        2 months ago

        The benefits easily outweighs the cost of some extra space use. We’re not talking about a lot here, after all, with dedupping, shared runtimes and what have you.

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      It’s also, of course, completely closed source so who knows what it’s doing when it’s running.

      Ah, yes. The Pinnacle of security