For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release
Everyone brazenly saying Flatpak is the best install package management system has stockholm syndrome.
Agreed. Snap is. It can do desktop and system components.
And you get the glorious security of beingwatched over by a profit-focused company and protected by a closed to proprietary server.
Like much software, it’s great - for some situations. And ugly for others.
I miss the days when packages were only available as deb or tar.gz
Edit: /s
I don’t : )
Me neither, I really like the usability of flatpak
It is the best one for people that don’t know a lot about linux. Many people are at a loss when they read basic errors like
fatal error: <header>.h: No such file or directoryorld: cannot find -l<library>. Flatpak solves a lot of that by specifically including all of it in the installation.So ye, for non-power users, flatpak is the best package manager. It also has only one downside, which is the increased storage requirement for apps as they have to bring all of their dependencies themselves, which is okay these days as storage isn’t that expensive anymore.
And everything is better than fucking snap if we’re honest for a second.
I really don’t understand the flatpak hate. Stuff doesn’t magically work across distros, and app devs don’t usually want to debug every major one. If you’re running linux on a thinkpad from 2004, sure, it wouldn’t be the best but most people can probably afford the overhead.
Linux people tend to have very strong opinions lol. I don’t get the hate either, but I do understand why people dislike the thought of having the same library lying around multiple times. I am one of those “purists”, but that’s why I compile most things from source
Yeah flatpak won’t work on my Nokia 3310 either, what a shit software…
Edit: if you upvoted this comment, your kneecaps pop when you pick up things from the ground
I’m too old to pick up stuff from the ground, I use one of them claws on a stick. Also, the 3210 was a nice phone while the 3310 was for the hip kids.
Don’t your filesystem deduplicate it on the fly anyway?
flatpak install/update <package name> --no-relatedthere problem solved
Or alternatively… crzyshrtct was not found on your host, but is required, daddy. Please install it to be able to use the software.
Another missed occasion to have taken a screenshot. There’s gnome-screenshot, scrot, your DE’s integrated tool and so many others to choose from, you can do it!
That sort of shit makes me hate the modern internet. (Also screenshots are cleaner and therefore compress better since you seem to care (rightfully) about storage space.)
Yeah but if youre using a lemmy app on your phone its significantly faster to just use your phone camera rather than having to share/transfer the file over somehow, or sign into lemmy on your pc. Im not saying you’re wrong, but i get why someone wouldn’t care for a quick throwaway post. Also storage then isnt an issue on the PC at all because the image is only on the phone.
Phones also have limited storage?
Regardless, posting on the desktop is exactly as hard as typing in the name of your instance and your credentials…
If you’re gonna be editing a meme, typing comments and such, it’s worth it very fast imo.
And crucially, it’s a really basic form of respect for your audience. Oh and also framing the shot correctly, we’re missing part of the text…
Build it from source them.
People bitching about Flatpaks don’t understand that they have dedupe built in. You’re literally not using any more space and it’s easier for app developers to deploy.
Try using Snaps sometime, if you want something to actually bitch about.
But it’s a delta.
I see DLL Hell is still going strong…
I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD
Are you using a first gen eeePC?
I think I bought one of those for 40€, 12 years ago.Its a Fujitsu futro s920, got it off ebay
Man I miss the netbooks! Loved my Mini 9
In an alternate universe, phones with a fold-out hardware keyboard and full Linux OS are common.
And you can just plug them into a docking station to get a full PC.That alternate universe is this one in 2009… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900
I put OSX on mine. A $200 Macbook mini was a cool project and a neat conversation piece.
Are you me? I hackintoshed mine too for a while! Was still alternating between OSX and Linux at the time.
Thirded on the hackentosh.
I can neither confirm nor deny I got my hands on one years later and flipped it on fleBay with the Mac OS on it.
I wish I had moved to Linux sooner. I was in IT at the time and only saw windows and OSX in the wild. Servers were all windows except for one xserve. I still to this day have no idea what that server did for that customer. My only real experience with Linux at that time was FreePBX when setting up phone systems for offices.
Ok dude, you should have looked at the minimum requirements for a linux install before buying that thin client. I checked debian and fedora and both had minimun requirements exceeding 8gb for graphical environments. Read the manual, stop bashing a tool you arent using right. Flatpak works great for almost every use case, especially if you learn how to tweak the sandbox.
“you’re holding it wrong”?
did you see those little
<in front of the download sizes?org.kde.KStyle.Adwaita,org.kdePlatform.Locale,org.kde.Platformandcom.ktechpit.torrhuntwon’t be fully downloaded as those are possibly already installed and can be reused, so in the best case you only downloadorg.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-570-86-16fully.There’s also deduplication across the different files. So you could even end up with less overall size over time if you use Flatpaks for everything.
Is it on the Arch User Repository?
Personally I do like the ideas behind Snap/Flatpak. I think the sandboxing is a huge deal and will improve security going forward.
In a world where space is usually the cheapest and most available hardware on a PC, I tend to agree. That being said, it’s the kind of solution that comes from engineers who put the onus on the hardware to make up for their shitty software. Engineers like me.
In a world where space is usually the cheapest and most available hardware on a PC
I read this in the movie trailer guy’s voice
Yeah. Someone has to put in the work for packaging an application if you want it as a .deb/.rpm etc. package and deal with any bugs that might come up, and it’s not going to be me (speaking as a user, not a developer).
That said, I also painted myself into a corner when it comes to harddrive space. LUKS can be complicated, man …
