• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Leftists are the only one trying to fix the host. The liberal will say we must compromise with the shooter, and try to vote him out of the boat in four years.

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      2 days ago

      We need to stop using ambiguous terms like “leftist”. It’s way too broad and doesn’t help anyone. I identify as liberal (also too broad), and I likely believe in 90% of the policies you advocate for.

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        2 days ago

        Liberals are reactionaries who wish to return to a previous status quo. Leftists wish to dismantle the existing systems, and establish a socialist system. Two goals in absolute opposition to each other.

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              10 hours ago

              In political terms, “liberal” typically refers to a political and moral philosophy based on ideas of liberty, consent of the governed, and equality before the law. However, the meaning of “liberal” varies somewhat depending on context and location.

              In the United States, liberalism generally refers to:

              • Support for civil liberties and individual rights
              • Advocacy for social equality and justice
              • Belief in government intervention to address social and economic inequalities
              • Support for progressive taxation and social welfare programs
              • Emphasis on regulatory oversight of business and industry

              In the broader international and historical context, liberalism is associated with:

              • Support for democratic systems of government
              • Protection of civil liberties and human rights
              • Free markets with some government regulation
              • Separation of church and state
              • Rule of law and legal equality
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                10 hours ago

                K. Not talking about liberals in theory. I’m speaking of the self-identifying liberals as they exist in the world today. An absolute menace.

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      2 days ago

      “Fixing the boat” implies they are successfully doing anything other than complain. Leftists are sitting in the boat yelling at the Liberal for not fixing the boat.

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        Psh, as a leftist I’ll have you know we’ve done a lot more than complain. We went to a few protests, wrote a couple emails, and boycott stores we hardly shopped at in the first place.

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        I can’t speak to your town, but the leftist orgs in my area are organizing a number of efforts to help feed & house people, along with any number of events to improve the area for the people living in it. They’re also working on the political side to push for ranked-choice voting, challenging voter suppression efforts, etc.

        Just because you’re not paying attention doesn’t mean they aren’t putting in the work.

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          So you’re saying they’re yelling at the liberal to fix the boat and then the guy with the gun throws them off the boat? Doesn’t sound like you’re disagreeing with me.

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            What I am saying is while you cowards remain complicit, there are brave individuals risking their lives to take action, doing anything necessary, even at the cost of their professional and social lives, to stand up for what is right.

            They must confront both you hypocritical weaklings and the psychopaths.

            What did the Democrats do to protect the American population from a rapist insurrectionist corrupted by russia when they were in power?

            It seems that empathy is a lesson some of you still need to learn. Unfortunately, this lesson comes at the expense of millions of lives. Bombing children to achieve genocidal goals is unacceptable. Cope harder hypocrite

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              I’m not the hypocrite here…neither of us are doing anything that would protect the American population from a rapist insurrectionist corrupted by Russia, I’m just admitting it while you’re pretending your impotent wails are doing anything so you can look down on everyone else.

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                You’re right, I’m currently focusing on my own country due to being born there you know? But I can still recognize and admire how brave these people are to stand up and fight against the useless and magass, not being complicit with fascism is actually remarkable.

                Also, there are effective treatments for impotence now. If it isn’t curable, you can still seek psychological support instead of lashing out your frustration randomly.

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      Look, there’s room for both sinking and floating here, we just need to give everyone a chance to try it out their own way!

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      which they will immediately fail by trying to appeal to his cult that will never stop voting for him at the clear and undeniable cost of alienating their own voters. maybe a dick chaney endorsement!!